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[Kimosabi]

So just out of curiosity, what benefits has the UK seen since leaving the European Union 

[GarethM]

Kimosabi, how about instead of just assuming all those "benefits" are free remember those were all paid for in some way shape or form.

 

Just because it's all you've known doesn't make the EU some idealistic land of milk and honey.

 

I don't work abroad, always have that option in Sweden if I wanted. I do import, bit of extra paperwork added £50 to the cost.

Edited November 24, 2022 by GarethM

[Kimosabi]

No, i was simply asking an impartial question, whether we're in Europe or not is irrelevant to me 

[Kimosabi]

10 minutes ago, Big J said:

 

The main benefit, as far as I'm concerned, was the freedom of movement. That didn't actually cost us anything. Quite the opposite - the exodus of EU migrants has left a hole in the workforce, pushing prices up for everyone. 

 

And it's in the news that the year to June 2022 saw the highest ever recorded net migration number for the UK. I know that Ukraine and Hong Kong were factors, but this notion of Brexit being a route to 'taking back control of our borders' is a fallacy.

 

[GarethM]

From yesterdays discussion, we are where we are. I like the phrase "Piss with the cock you've got".

 

We can all argue about the utter ineptitude of all side in regards to certain aspects who choose to not respect we are an island with certain additional rights such as fishing and borders etc.

 

Eventually they'll pull they're heads out of the gravy trough to realise they need to cooperate or risk loosing more countries to a failed ideology of never accepting the are also responsible and to blame.

[Kimosabi]

Again, as someone who is impartial and couldn't care less whether we are in Europe or not what way has the country got better or improved since we left the European Union 

[Kimosabi]

So Gareth m, what have been the benefits so far??

[coppice cutter]

2 hours ago, Kimosabi said:

So just out of curiosity, what benefits has the UK seen since leaving the European Union 

We'd need to actually leave to find out!

[Kimosabi]

Haven't we?

[coppice cutter]

No I don't believe we have.

 

Still a lot of outstanding issues and progress dealing with them is worryingly slow.

 

Not surprising though.