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[Johnsond]

I didn’t write it 🤷‍♂️
You are talking to the wrong person. 

Edited September 12 by Johnsond

[NJA]

6 hours ago, Mark J said:

Freedom of speech is dead.

I didn't know the bloke, did a quick search on him, realised he was the one that south park had been mocking, came to the conclusion he was a bit of a prick, who I wouldn't have over for dinner.

I have made no speculation as to who shot him. He clearly has stirred up some trouble for someone to go to the effort of executing him. 

Sorry if I have offended anyone who knew him. 

 

I don't watch south park but I can't imagine its a balanced place to base your opinion of anyone on.

 

Everyone has a political view, but to invite anyone to come and debate that with you in front of 1000's of people rather than just air it behind a keyboard is something very very few people would have the courage to do. 

 

'He was never flustered, he never had to raise his voice to be heard or shout over someone. He had a quiet determination to spread his message while giving others the opportunity to come and counter his views with their own and talk about it.  He'd often quieten the crowd who heckled the person at the mike even though they had opposing opinion to him, acting to make sure he didn’t promote ridicule or humiliation, but a genuine will to try and understand their point of view.  He was silenced by someone who didn't have the intelligence to stand up and debate him' (this paragraph I copied from another post, but think its so true).

 

Its certainly a sad day for America. Very enlightening to watch his opinions on Great Britain, this is someone who didn't go to university, travelling halfway across the world to Oxford University to debate, and it seems understanding the underlying issues of Britain today better than those in power (on both sides); 

 

 

[tree-fancier123]

America is a dangerous place - ask John Lennon

Charlie Kirk was very aligned with white republican Christians and that's OK. 

But it doesn't mean his views were correct or the most valid.

On religion

There is no separation of church and state. It’s a fabrication, it’s a fiction, it’s not in the constitution. It’s made up by secular humanists.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 6 July 2022

 

[Johnsond]

Talk about not “ getting it” 

[tree-fancier123]

33 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

Talk about not “ getting it” 

you talk as though people who don't this in the accepted way are spiteful or just plain wrong.

[NJA]

18 minutes ago, tree-fancier123 said:

America is a dangerous place - ask John Lennon

Charlie Kirk was very aligned with white republican Christians and that's OK. 

But it doesn't mean his views were correct or the most valid.

On religion

There is no separation of church and state. It’s a fabrication, it’s a fiction, it’s not in the constitution. It’s made up by secular humanists.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 6 July 2022

 

 

22 minutes ago, tree-fancier123 said:

America is a dangerous place - ask John Lennon

Well it has standards, which have made it what it is, so hence it sticks to.  Who did he have to blame for that?

Yes Kirk was very aligned with Christians, (I think he said himself that colour doesn't come into it though).  America through being a Christian country quickly became the greatest country in the world, Trump is 'making America great again' by bringing it back to the values which made it great in the first place, which they'd got away from during Biden presidency.  Popular? No not always.   Best for America? Yes it seems so, which is his job as president.

[tree-fancier123]

24 minutes ago, NJA said:

Yes Kirk was very aligned with Christians, (I think he said himself that colour doesn't come into it though).

On race

If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024

[Steven P]

43 minutes ago, NJA said:

Trump is 'making America great again' by bringing it back to the values which made it great in the first place,

 

Financially? You mean slavery then. Built off the back of the African slave.

 

(We are not immune to this either - the port cities of the UK were the same - Liverpool, Portsmouth, Glasgow, Bristol...)

[JLA1990]

33 minutes ago, tree-fancier123 said:

On race

If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, boy, I hope he’s qualified.

– The Charlie Kirk Show, 23 January 2024

How hard is it to fact check

something before posting? This snippet has been clipped from a debate he was having about affirmative action - in short he just hopes the pilots qualified and hasn’t been given the job based on his colour. Context is everything but at least we now know you probably blindly peddle drivel daily. 

[NJA]

16 minutes ago, Steven P said:

 

Financially? You mean slavery then. Built off the back of the African slave.

 

(We are not immune to this either - the port cities of the UK were the same - Liverpool, Portsmouth, Glasgow, Bristol...)

No obviously not, I don't think bringing back slavery has ever been suggested or condoned.