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7 hours ago, Oldfeller said:

once you start accepting the feckin' alphabet people and "furries" as the same as everyone else with the same rights, it's hard to tell the terminal nutjobs from those just wanting a little attention. 

given the propensity worldwide to avoid questioning the sanity and eligibility of all the things normal people can use and be responsible with, you're on a downward spiral.

in our own country literally hundreds of people are on various lists, being monitored for website activity, often for years, but nothing is done until they blow kids up at a concert, or school, or some other atrocity, and then it's all,,, lessons will be learned, and suggestions, lobbying, etc,  and wasting time and taxpayers money on  how to place more controls on those  adhering to the laws in place without achieving anything to negate the original problems.

walk down the road minding your own business with the wrong kind of dog and it gets seized and destroyed, say a few "hurty words" on the internet and you could wind up incarcerated, fly the wrong flag from your roof and see how quick 5/0 turn up.

 and people wonder why there is so much negativity in the world.

 

 

Great post, i think you’ve summed it up very well here!

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10 minutes ago, monkeybusiness said:

Great post, i think you’ve summed it up very well here!

Im not so sure. Harold Shipman didnt identify as a furrie and he was probably the biggest serial killer in our times.

 

Just like these guys

 

 

And yeah, walkin down the road with the wrong type of dog and you should face the consequences for sure. Those people can fck right off.

 

Although I do agree with the bit about having people on a watch list and waiting and waiting until something happens which is all a little too late. But then again some people complain about big brother, big government watching over us, they cant have it both ways.

 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, Mesterh said:

Im not so sure. Harold Shipman didnt identify as a furrie and he was probably the biggest serial killer in our times.

 

Just like these guys

 

 

And yeah, walkin down the road with the wrong type of dog and you should face the consequences for sure. Those people can fck right off.

 

Although I do agree with the bit about having people on a watch list and waiting and waiting until something happens which is all a little too late. But then again some people complain about big brother, big government watching over us, they cant have it both ways.

 

 

 

Depending on how much Influence people like Musk and Thiel wield in the UK, a surveillance state is exactly what they have in mind. Palantir is a red flag, and the fact Mandelson is involved should raise eyebrows. 

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9 hours ago, Oldfeller said:

once you start accepting the feckin' alphabet people and "furries" as the same as everyone else with the same rights, it's hard to tell the terminal nutjobs from those just wanting a little attention. 

 

You're an old man, must have met thousands of people in your time. Did you ever meet a 'furry', ever talk to one? Have you ever been scared by a person wearing a onesie? To be honest, I am a lot younger than you, the thousands of people I have met are perhaps more my era, and I have never met one either. Scared of what is statistically improbable in society? Enough to make an issue of it? Perhaps time to leave the pages of the printed press, the Telegraph, Mail and Express and come back to reality to check it out every now and then.

 

'Alphabet people'.. again, so a man might like to touch another man - what is there about that that makes them different to you or me? Again a fear propagated by the press you read I suspect, come to the real world, it really isn't that scary.

 

 

 

... I say scary.... you appear in you messaging more aggressive than a lot on here.. and yet there you are, scared shitless by what people do in their bedrooms.

Posted
8 hours ago, Oldfeller said:

try pulling that feckin stick out your arse.

condescending prick.

Oh dear, you do have a thing about botties dontcha? Repressed latent homosexual tendencies?

Posted
19 hours ago, Oldfeller said:

once you start accepting the feckin' alphabet people and "furries" as the same as everyone else with the same rights, it's hard to tell the terminal nutjobs from those just wanting a little attention. 

given the propensity worldwide to avoid questioning the sanity and eligibility of all the things normal people can use and be responsible with, you're on a downward spiral.

in our own country literally hundreds of people are on various lists, being monitored for website activity, often for years, but nothing is done until they blow kids up at a concert, or school, or some other atrocity, and then it's all,,, lessons will be learned, and suggestions, lobbying, etc,  and wasting time and taxpayers money on  how to place more controls on those  adhering to the laws in place without achieving anything to negate the original problems.

walk down the road minding your own business with the wrong kind of dog and it gets seized and destroyed, say a few "hurty words" on the internet and you could wind up incarcerated, fly the wrong flag from your roof and see how quick 5/0 turn up.

 and people wonder why there is so much negativity in the world.

 

 

 

That's all well and good, but can you propose any solutions? We need solutions man. And quickly. 

 

I'd suggest a good place to start would be to force the big tech companies to remove the heinous content that they harbour. That's fueling most of this shit now. After all, why do normal, responsible people need to watch videos of beheadings, or learn how to make ricin? (I could add own assault rifles, but that's a whole other can of worms!)

 

I think you're right about the various lists that suspects are on. The problem is that those lists are held by different organizations, who don't talk to each other. We need a big push to align and connect all the social services, education, mental health institutions, MI5/6 and the police etc. Also, they need to be made more efficient and dare I say it? Better funded.

 

Look at the Axel Rudakubana case for example. A sick fcked up individual for sure. But also a depressing litany of safeguarding disasters on multiple fronts. 

 

WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM

How a chain of events apparently beginning at school five years ago led to the murder of three girls in horrific atrocity

 

 

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8 minutes ago, sime42 said:

 

That's all well and good, but can you propose any solutions? We need solutions man. And quickly. 

 

I'd suggest a good place to start would be to force the big tech companies to remove the heinous content that they harbour. That's fueling most of this shit now. After all, why do normal, responsible people need to watch videos of beheadings, or learn how to make ricin? (I could add own assault rifles, but that's a whole other can of worms!)

 

I think you're right about the various lists that suspects are on. The problem is that those lists are held by different organizations, who don't talk to each other. We need a big push to align and connect all the social services, education, mental health institutions, MI5/6 and the police etc. Also, they need to be made more efficient and dare I say it? Better funded.

 

Look at the Axel Rudakubana case for example. A sick fcked up individual for sure. But also a depressing litany of safeguarding disasters on multiple fronts. 

 

WWW.THEGUARDIAN.COM

How a chain of events apparently beginning at school five years ago led to the murder of three girls in horrific atrocity

 

 

Thank you for a well thought out reply, you're correct, something needs to be done, and quickly, but there are already laws in place that would be  effective to a degree in either preventing many of these tragic events such as the southport child killer, and many,many similar nutjobs, warning signs were plain enough to see, but as you rightly state, ignored,  misinterpreted, had their been cohesion and action taken by those who knew of the chain of events that led to the final act of crazed psycho carnage,  it could have been averted.

imo, it's not helped by groups of idiots who actually appear to think these crazies are simply doing no harm and it often seems more important for them to cast their twisted views on others for stating the perpetrator was colored, an illegal immigrant  or non white, or pointing out the fact that white people commit crimes too, maybe that would change if their child was repeatedly stabbed in the head. 

and those that have the powers of law seem reluctant to enact those laws, either for fear of racism, or even more concerning,,, they are part of it, as has come to light in a recent rape gangs investigation.

until these people are eliminated from society it will not only continue but get much worse.

To pick up on your comment on "better funding" 100% agree, but where there's cash there's corruption and there's no group of corrupt people greater that government, of any political denomination.

maybe changing that might be a start, but of course their is no guarantee whatever replaced it would not be equally corrupt. the  corrupt will keep playing their game, the pawns will keep taking it until the final straw breaks the back of the camel and chaos will ensue, helping nobody.

I guess humanity will implode at some time in the future, largely by its own progression, and nature will no doubt try and rebuild from what's left, it has more time than we can contemplate.

I don't like what's happening, but short of voicing my opinions not much I can do about it, especially given the time I have left.

 

 

 

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