When customers want to help!

[aspenarb]

I don't think I am devaluing the industry! I am a good climber who does a good job.

I quoted the job for a fair price (£300). This job did not need a 3 man team and a chipper. It took me from 9 till 3, the garden was spotless afterwards and the customer happy and knackered after all his secateur work.

 

What about that is devaluing the industry?

 

Nothing at all Macca, some of the very best in this industry work from the boot of a car, the only thing you need to do is read the customer the riot act and keep them away from your work zone.

 

Bob

[Macca]

Absolutely true , has soon has you mention working on your own you will get shot down on here .

 

 

Ste

 

 

By grumpy old men😂

[IVECOKID]

By grumpy old men😂

 

 

 

 

 

Ste

[flatyre]

take no notice, some members are too far up their own you know what. Like they never took on a job solo, and probably called their customers far more offensive names. I've had similar replies to threads I started, just ignore them, if they don't have any knowledge to offer they should just ignore the thread. we're here for advice, not abuse.

[Kev Stephenson]

 

My work is always professional. Are you are implying by climbing on my own as unprofessional? Not every tree needs a big team to take it out!

 

Climbing without a rescue climber is in breach of HSE best practice - lack of suitably qualified rescue climber available so yes that is unprofessional.

 

As soon as anyone helps on your job be it paid or unpaid, someone you take or the home owner they are employed by you. You therefore need to carry suitable employers liability insurance, this is one of the 2 LEGALLY required insurances in the UK. You don't state whether you hold employees insurance but do say you have no employees so I make no assumptions just state facts.

[Macca]

Climbing without a rescue climber is in breach of HSE best practice - lack of suitably qualified rescue climber available so yes that is unprofessional.

 

 

 

As soon as anyone helps on your job be it paid or unpaid, someone you take or the home owner they are employed by you. You therefore need to carry suitable employers liability insurance, this is one of the 2 LEGALLY required insurances in the UK. You don't state whether you hold employees insurance but do say you have no employees so I make no assumptions just state facts.

 

 

What a load of ****!

 

Well I better hope the FBI don't helicopter in and bust me at my next job!

[IVECOKID]

Climbing without a rescue climber is in breach of HSE best practice - lack of suitably qualified rescue climber available so yes that is unprofessional.QUOTE]

 

 

So cutting down a little cherry tree in some ole birds garden is un professional if your on your own like myself???

There is no end to all tho Best practice , worked all my life on a farm on my own till all hours at night .

 

Ste

[Macca]

Climbing without a rescue climber is in breach of HSE best practice - lack of suitably qualified rescue climber available so yes that is unprofessional.

 

 

 

As soon as anyone helps on your job be it paid or unpaid, someone you take or the home owner they are employed by you. You therefore need to carry suitable employers liability insurance, this is one of the 2 LEGALLY required insurances in the UK. You don't state whether you hold employees insurance but do say you have no employees so I make no assumptions just state facts.

 

 

So if my mum helps me when I am cutting her grass unpaid, I need employers liability insurance!

[Vespasian]

Best get the police on me then, I took down three conifers myself last week..

The owner helping out as best he could by running away every time I started up the chainsaw, came back to pull out the odd branch from under the tree....

 

Had no idea I was employing him, I thought it was the other way round..

[Kev Stephenson]

So if my mum helps me when I am cutting her grass unpaid, I need employers liability insurance!

 

Be sensible. You were cutting down a tree and being paid for it, your name was on the job and you were doing it with assistance (all be it you didn't want that assistance). You must legally insure anyone that helps you. What would have happened if you dropped a chog and hit the home owner with it or the home owner tripped and fell over the brash pile he had moved?

 

Either ensure your work area is clear of people or carry the correct insurances. Tree work is great money without the overheads!!

 

With regards to aerial rescue see Working and tree climbing without any emergency procedures . He was 15ft up and fines £7.5k. You tell me when a tree becomes big enough to need a rescue climber and would you argue the same in a court?

 

If everyone played by the rules without exception then the whole industry would be looked at as a more professional trade, prices would go up and so would wages. Instead people are doing rough work, not following all the rules and undercutting professional outfits which ultimately brings down the prices for one and all. The man that does a £300 special on a Saturday and bangs the whole lot in his pocket thinks making money on trees is dead easy and the people running tree co's must be stacking up the cash. This customer tells all his friends and neighbours that the pro companies that also quoted the work are all out to rob you so stick to using the understaffed, uninsured companies and save a few quid!!

 

Yes it's a rant and I will probably get flamed for it but where do you draw the line??