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Yes interesting and always good to be reminded of tying in twice (esp whilst cutting) as speed often dictates the thought processes whilst at work, and I know I go through phases of not bothering.

But really to be tied in twice all the time..... I can't see it catching on

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This is something required by HSE best practice for rope access work, whether under governance of IRATA or SPRAT, the arb industry is currently exempt. Thankfully.

Although there are without doubt merits to twin lines in some applications, I think that we need to preserve this exemption.

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This is something required by HSE best practice for rope access work, whether under governance of IRATA or SPRAT, the arb industry is currently exempt. Thankfully.

Although there are without doubt merits to twin lines in some applications, I think that we need to preserve this exemption.

 

Hi the arb industry in not exampt. the work t height regs were implimented through the guide to good climbing parctice 2, nd also the standards set by the training and assessment provision.

 

the only part which is slightly differant for the arb industry is when 2 rope working is expected. the current stance is not during asent with multiple change overs, and certain moves in the canopy.but especially when cutting with chainsaw, 2 ropes is expected, also when the risk of a large swing is present.

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Hi the arb industry in not exampt. the work t height regs were implimented through the guide to good climbing parctice 2, nd also the standards set by the training and assessment provision.

 

the only part which is slightly differant for the arb industry is when 2 rope working is expected. the current stance is not during asent with multiple change overs, and certain moves in the canopy.but especially when cutting with chainsaw, 2 ropes is expected, also when the risk of a large swing is present.

 

Yes, Working at Height regulations do apply, of course, as do PUWER, LOLER etc. What has not been adopted to the full extent is the use of twin lines at all times. The arb climbers lanyard provides the secondary or safety fixing as and when necessary. In planned rope access work (in industry it is all planned) then there is a requirement for a primary and safety line, only in rope rescue can single line work be undertaken. And in these situations it is done so under the umbrella of dynamic risk assessment. The reason for this is that the simplicity of the system and the speed and efficiency of the getting to work are of great importance.

In tree work we are lucky. Lucky to have the choice and flexibility to use our own training, experience and judgment to carry out our business to best effect. Obviously observing best practice, but able to choose when you have two connection points, instead of having to have two separate systems in place all of the time that you are working in suspension.

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Yeah, but sometimes your life can depend on how quickly you can get the hell outta Dodge!

 

Like say a rookie crane operator moving a big trunk pick towards you, rather than away from yu?

 

There are exceptions to dang near every rule, with good reason IME.

 

Jomoco

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.... What has not been adopted to the full extent is the use of twin lines at all times.....Lucky to have the choice and flexibility to use our own training, experience and judgment to carry out our business to best effect.....

 

And I hope it stays that way. Using two separate climbing lines can be a fantastic choice in some situations but it should remain a choice.

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