Fisa

[MattyF]

Despite doing nptc refreshers last year I've been told they should of been by a FISA approved trainer to get on a timber harvesting sites but the Arb ones I did are fine so can carry on with Arb work for contractor....but basically told yesterday we can't get on the timber harvesting site we planned for with the above contractor any body clarify ? That makes no sense at all !

[AA Teccie (Paul)]

Despite doing nptc refreshers last year I've been told they should of been by a FISA approved trainer to get on a timber harvesting sites but the Arb ones I did are fine so can carry on with Arb work for contractor....but basically told yesterday we can't get on the timber harvesting site we planned for with the above contractor any body clarify ? That makes no sense at all !

 

Hi Matty,

 

I feel your frustration BUT this is correct as I understand it. However, if your 'NPTC' refreshers were specific to tree felling operations it would seem not to be in the spirit of this UK FISA - The Forest Industry Safety Accord

 

Hope you get something sorted...good luck!

 

Paul

[agrimog]

welcome to the corrupt world of FISA, and its "jobs for the boys" system and attitude

[MattyF]

Hi Matty,

 

 

 

I feel your frustration BUT this is correct as I understand it. However, if your 'NPTC' refreshers were specific to tree felling operations it would seem not to be in the spirit of this UK FISA - The Forest Industry Safety Accord

 

 

 

Hope you get something sorted...good luck!

 

 

 

Paul

 

 

Thanks for clarifying Paul.

[Tom D]

Hi Matty,

 

I feel your frustration BUT this is correct as I understand it. However, if your 'NPTC' refreshers were specific to tree felling operations it would seem not to be in the spirit of this UK FISA - The Forest Industry Safety Accord

 

Hope you get something sorted...good luck!

 

Paul

 

Hi Paul, this is a sorry state of affairs, refresher training may be a good thing for occasional users, but for professionals like Matty it is pretty pointless. That said we all have to go along with it. If however it transpires that some NPTC assessors are more 'equal' than others this really is a disgrace. What is the AA doing about this?

 

Cheers

 

Tom

[Jackalope]

welcome to the corrupt world of FISA, and its "jobs for the boys" system and attitude

 

Nail on the head there!

[AA Teccie (Paul)]

Hi Paul, this is a sorry state of affairs, refresher training may be a good thing for occasional users, but for professionals like Matty it is pretty pointless. That said we all have to go along with it. If however it transpires that some NPTC assessors are more 'equal' than others this really is a disgrace. What is the AA doing about this?

 

Cheers

 

Tom

 

Hi Tom, I hope you're well.

 

We have made representations to FISA on various matters, some they have been more engaging on than others. This particular topic of refresher training is rather "done and dusted", at least in respect of harvesting operations.

 

Aerial tree work / 'arb' they have acknowledged that FISA specific refresher training is not applicable...but refresher training in general is.

 

Cheers..

Paul

[Tom D]

So how do I know if my or my staff's NPTC's are recognised by FISA?

[timbernut]

If you or you're staff have done any new NPTC units then you don't have todo FISA approved assessor NPTC refresher. As said above: corrupt organisation run by the big forestry firms. I am a member but just for the free stickers😁

[Tree Man Tom]

I'm booked onto a fisa felling refresher course next month to allow me to work with some of the big national forestry companies. Makes me laugh though as all we do is the tree surgery side of things yet we have to do a felling refresher not a climbing based one which I thought would have made more sense!