West Lancashire is sinking....

[geoff]

Based on your own previous experience with this governmental agency would it be better for the OP to just move to higher ground or would the OP be breaking existing laws by setting up sand bags or building a flood barrier to protect his land and home.

easy-lift guy

 

I used my digger to put up a 3 foot earth wall and hedged it to tie it together on 3 sides of my property that are potential ingress points, it worked the one time we had floods, and gave me the time to help others who had no protection.

 

It was possible at mine, some properties do not lend themselves to easy barriers.

[eggsarascal]

Seems like the government has once again been a total failure for theses reoccurring flooding problems in the UK. Can you as a property owner build a barrier or have sand bags on hot stand by for future flooding seeing as your the only person that can have at least a partial pro active approach that the government continues to ignore?. I hope you dry out soon.

easy-lift guy

 

Ted, we could throw millions of £'s Sterling at the flooding problems and still have the net result, too much rainfall in a localised area will flood this small island. Any of us could be pro active, but at what cost?, sand bags are a good idea but building barriers is probably not an option (our armed forces did that in the North of the country this week, it didn't stop the rain!).

 

Also you would always get the selfish buggers who would protect their own property at the cost of people down stream of the water courses. This happend on the Somerset levels last year when one house owner open a sluice gate to save his own home and flooded hundreds of houses down stream.

[SteveA]

Based on your own previous experience with this governmental agency would it be better for the OP to just move to higher ground or would the OP be breaking existing laws by setting up sand bags or building a flood barrier to protect his land and home.

easy-lift guy

 

Best to accept the Environment Agency organisation for what they are.... way underfunded and under the thumb of a UKGov that hasn't taken climate change anywhere near seriously enough.

 

So assuming not much will change (in terms of constructing billions of £'s worth of flood defences across the UK, inc coastal defences + planting forests to replace sheep).....

 

Probably best to try and sell up (even if it means breaking even or making a slight loss) and move to somewhere that isn't in flood risk..... that is what we did.

 

Flood measures can be pretty complicated, depending on the property.

Our house in Dorset was Victorian and the walls probably would have collapsed under the outside pressure from the shear weight of water.... so in some cases it's best to defend up to a certain height and beyond that let it flood inside to equalise the pressure.

 

One thing for sure is that it's a horrible feeling to have flood water rising to your door step. We were just lucky in that we weren't flooded.... 6 houses from us further down the same road weren't so lucky.

cheers, steve

[harvey b davison]

I've just been looking at some canal rescue pictures of all the damage caused to canal boats. Horrible.

[easy-lift guy]

Best to accept the Environment Agency organisation for what they are.... way underfunded and under the thumb of a UKGov that hasn't taken climate change anywhere near seriously enough.

 

So assuming not much will change (in terms of constructing billions of £'s worth of flood defences across the UK, inc coastal defences + planting forests to replace sheep).....

 

Probably best to try and sell up (even if it means breaking even or making a slight loss) and move to somewhere that isn't in flood risk..... that is what we did.

 

Flood measures can be pretty complicated, depending on the property.

Our house in Dorset was Victorian and the walls probably would have collapsed under the outside pressure from the shear weight of water.... so in some cases it's best to defend up to a certain height and beyond that let it flood inside to equalise the pressure.

 

One thing for sure is that it's a horrible feeling to have flood water rising to your door step. We were just lucky in that we weren't flooded.... 6 houses from us further down the same road weren't so lucky.

cheers, steve

 

Understood, The best defense is a good offense. Flooding has been a problem for thousands of years here in this part of the world. Governments continue to allow individuals to buy swamp land or land next to streams and rivers knowing that this land is on flood plain. Sadly people that can afford to purchase land above sea-level pay more in insurances and taxes in order to subsidize everyone else that either will not buy above sea-level or are to ignorant to the fact that buying land below sea-level is really not very smart at all.

easy-lift guy

[Bob Morris]

 

Probably best to try and sell up (even if it means breaking even or making a slight loss) and move to somewhere that isn't in flood risk..... that is what we did.

 

 

After being flooded three times in four years (in North Wales) that is what we did too. Yeah it took us a while to learn but one always hopes for the best.

 

Bob

[easy-lift guy]

Ted, we could throw millions of £'s Sterling at the flooding problems and still have the net result, too much rainfall in a localised area will flood this small island. Any of us could be pro active, but at what cost?, sand bags are a good idea but building barriers is probably not an option (our armed forces did that in the North of the country this week, it didn't stop the rain!).

 

Also you would always get the selfish buggers who would protect their own property at the cost of people down stream of the water courses. This happend on the Somerset levels last year when one house owner open a sluice gate to save his own home and flooded hundreds of houses down stream.

 

As long as any government is not willing to condemn the land that is either below sea level or on a flood plane, the land owner or renter must know that their on borrowed time.

I agree that investing money to continue sticking fingers into dikes is pretty much useless. The rain will fall regardless and if people buy land or rent land on a flood plane the results will remain the same. I suppose being proactive for one can be bad for all, since everyone seems to be in the same boat with the drain plug missing:sneaky2:

easy-lift guy

[geoff]

Ted, we could throw millions of £'s Sterling at the flooding problems and still have the net result, too much rainfall in a localised area will flood this small island. Any of us could be pro active, but at what cost?, sand bags are a good idea but building barriers is probably not an option (our armed forces did that in the North of the country this week, it didn't stop the rain!).

 

Also you would always get the selfish buggers who would protect their own property at the cost of people down stream of the water courses. This happend on the Somerset levels last year when one house owner open a sluice gate to save his own home and flooded hundreds of houses down stream.

 

Yep.

[mendiplogs]

Seriously heavy rain from around 4 this morning and by 10 am the river burst it's banks by 10.30 garden flooded.

 

Big big thanks to a couple of mates and neighbour,who brought a couple of submersible pumps and flat hose, we managed to save the house but it was a close, close thing...

Water has drained off for now but more rain expected, tomorrow is project flood protection. Thoughts are with those less fortunate, it's not a pleasant thing to watch as the water rises so quickly.

 

Hi mate what's the latest from there no mate keep safe John

[treequip]

Based on your own previous experience with this governmental agency would it be better for the OP to just move to higher ground or would the OP be breaking existing laws by setting up sand bags or building a flood barrier to protect his land and home.

easy-lift guy

 

You have to realise this is a small island where land is at a premium.

 

Greedy developers and councils wanting more properties to build and tax and they aren't too fussy about where

 

Sea levels have risen 200mm in the last century and we keep making "improvements" to the landscape

 

As an example, this summer "Sport England" spent many tens of thousands of government grant money providing drainage for the village cricket field, now all that water (and other) that used to percolate into the river over many days gets there in moments then we wonder why the river floods the recently built skate park