forwarding crane vs hiab type

[Peter]

Got a Palfinger but I'm still using it. If I find a nice radio remote one to upgrade to I'll let you know.

[aspenarb]

I wouldn't unduly worry about it mate, just use a pto pump to give it plenty of oil if the Deere isn't kicking enough out.

Having used Nigels on a number of occasions with an Atlas brick/grab loader type crane, it's slower but can handle a much bigger grab, plus obviously is so much better at general crane duties.

I think you'll drop on something much easier in the lorry loader range and it'll fold up much better as others have said.

Got a real nice PTO pump lying about too!:thumb up:

 

 

Eddie.

 

I agree, I have killed a couple of timber cranes and find the hiab/brick cranes more suitable for the general abuse of dragging/wrestling oversize timber onto a trailer. The downside as Pete says is the speed, I was running timber into a yard for a few months using our set up and it took me at least ten minutes more to unload vs the other trucks in and out of there. Current crane is about to die but have got another brick crane to replace it.

 

Bob

[timtree81]

Roof mount all the way !

[Charlieh]

Not really take by roof mounts, even for forwarding in thinnings. Think they suit arb contractors and chipping sets up fine though.

 

I would rather run a trailer mounted crane. The tractors need to do to much n-arb based work through the year to run a dedicated unit

[Peter]

The only thing that ticks all the boxes is a z crane.

[jamesmerriman7]

Very interesting topic this for me!

Lorry cranes a lot cheaper than forestry cranes too. I'm in a debate. I collect a lot of big timber from farms who have wind blown trees and close to a dealer of cordwood. I have a botex 8t trailer with extension so can take 2 bays of 3 meters.

How do you think the hiab crane work on the botex?

Would it be too heavy... It weighs just over a ton.

I've never used a crane trailer set up before... Is the visibility a factor with crane controls on the left hand side?

All thoughts and opinions welcome!

Cheers

James

[Charlieh]

If its just for shifting timber on a forwarding trailer, I would get a timber crane, especially as the botex has the mounting points for putting a 3point linkage crane on it already. I would think mounting a lorry crane on the front of the botex trailer would also put a lot of pressure on the steering drawbar.

 

Have you looked at the igland timber cranes that Wilsons are selling? not a lot of money for a crane which would bolt straight onto the trailer, either that or a Farma crane as they are really well made units

[jamesmerriman7]

The igland cranes don't have much lifting power 840 kg at 3 meters without grapple! Want something sturdy with some lifting power

[woody paul]

Hiab type crane for power lifts if moving stems speed is not everything also you said plant to move that also needs moving slow as if you drop it a lot more expensive than dropping a bit of timber.

[Peter]

You don't need lifting power at 3 metres, you drag it in and then lift it. Obviously you can get a bigger timber crane, but the cost goes up and the availability of secondhand goes down.

 

If you're loading a small number of large lumps then a hiab crane would be better.

 

Timber cranes are designed to quickly load a large number of small pieces.