anyone ever write a rebuttal to kiln drying

[Logsnstuff]

there was some talk a while back about writing up a response for us air drying merchants as to why air dried is better or certainly no worse than kiln dried just curious if anyone ever did it. was googling the other day came across another 3 kiln dried sellers all saying air dried will be significantly higher Mc one in fife saying kiln dried at 20% air at 30% and 2 in England with 18% 22% kiln and 40% for the air dried.

 

came across this on an Australian site.

 

A one kilogram log of wood offsets carbon dioxide emissions by 1.65 kilograms.

1kg (wood) x 0.45 (carbon content) x 3.67 (CO2 / C) = 1.65kg CO2 reduction. This result gives an idea of how important trees are to remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere

 

would think that's a good reason for some not to buy kiln dried.

[Gary Prentice]

Maybe also a good reason not to burn logs, period.

[Joy Yeomans]

I am getting great results from air dried ash reading 17% and larch st 23%.

can't understand kiln usage unless burning a bi product or true waste

[Big J]

Kiln drying firewood is of course ridiculous.

 

It does however make economic sense for many, and even more so now that the government has decided to throw so much money at it.

 

It's an inescapable truth in life that things that make no sense often do make sense when the concept of money is introduced. Burning wood to dry wood for burning is one of these occasions.

[arboriculturist]

I am getting great results from air dried ash reading 17% and larch st 23%.

can't understand kiln usage unless burning a bi product or true waste

 

I am not advocating kiln drying to receive the RHI payments - but as has been discussed many times before on the Forum, drying give the flexibility to react to demand and avoids the capital tied up in stock.

[skyhuck]

Kiln drying firewood is of course ridiculous.

 

It does however make economic sense for many, and even more so now that the government has decided to throw so much money at it.

 

It's an inescapable truth in life that things that make no sense often do make sense when the concept of money is introduced. Burning wood to dry wood for burning is one of these occasions.

 

 

A huge proportion of people are burning wet wood, this means a fair bit of the wood they burn is simply boiling off the water rather than heating their home.

 

So a log merchant commercialising this process to enable the end user to have a better produce and not need to store and use as much timber is no bad thing, IMO.

[arboriculturist]

there was some talk a while back about writing up a response for us air drying merchants as to why air dried is better or certainly no worse than kiln dried just curious if anyone ever did it. was googling the other day came across another 3 kiln dried sellers all saying air dried will be significantly higher Mc one in fife saying kiln dried at 20% air at 30% and 2 in England with 18% 22% kiln and 40% for the air dried.

 

came across this on an Australian site.

 

A one kilogram log of wood offsets carbon dioxide emissions by 1.65 kilograms.

1kg (wood) x 0.45 (carbon content) x 3.67 (CO2 / C) = 1.65kg CO2 reduction. This result gives an idea of how important trees are to remove carbon dioxide from the atmosphere

 

would think that's a good reason for some not to buy kiln dried.

 

For those not recieving Government funding in the form of RHI payments to dry their firewood, it may tempting for some to draw to the attention of the public that the vast majority of kiln dried firewood sold in the UK is imported from abroad or funded by the taxpayer.

 

It is never wise to name names though - that's just un-professional.

[Scotty38]

So a log merchant commercialising this process to enable the end user to have a better produce and not need to store and use as much timber is no bad thing, IMO.

 

Just as an aside if your customer buys enough up front to last them the winter where do you advise they store it so as to not affect the benefit of it being kiln dried?

[Jim B]

I am not advocating kiln drying to receive the RHI payments - but as has been discussed many times before on the Forum, drying give the flexibility to react to demand and avoids the capital tied up in stock.

 

I quite agree with the benefits to large scale producers. What does miff me is the numerous adverts stating that kiln dried is in some way superior to my air dried product. Yesterday I took out air dried birch at 18%, hemlock and pine reading 17% tested on a fresh split face. The firewood market is full of enough hot air and guff without something else confusing an already confused customer.

[arboriculturist]

I quite agree with the benefits to large scale producers. What does miff me is the numerous adverts stating that kiln dried is in some way superior to my air dried product. Yesterday I took out air dried birch at 18%, hemlock and pine reading 17% tested on a fresh split face. The firewood market is full of enough hot air and guff without something else confusing an already confused customer.

 

I read an editorial just this week, that claimed exactly that and was also running down air dried Firewood.

 

Where I see a case like this, I intend to put the record straight with a piece based on quantified facts and not opinions.