Drowned refugee children

[treequip]

Is it unreasonable to say refugee up to the point where the immediate danger has been escaped - the first point of safety. Then migrant if attempting to move from the first point of safety to a 'preferred' location?

 

What he said

[SteveA]

Is it unreasonable to say refugee up to the point where the immediate danger has been escaped - the first point of safety. Then migrant if attempting to move from the first point of safety to a 'preferred' location?

 

That also explains why the BBC and UKGov have been so persistent in calling them "migrants" rather than "refugees".

 

I mean we can't have refugees boarding a plane in Syria and coming straight to the UK can we!

[TIMON]

The question is.. What are our governments doing to help refugees in Syria?

It's very easy to sit back in our comfortable safe European homes and pass judgement.

I went to Bodrum in Turkey (where those photos were taken) on holiday a few years ago. It's given me a different perspective on the whole refugee/migrant situation.

It would be nice to see the UN and Europe do a LOT more to help.

[matelot]

The thing is that some previous immigrants into Europe haven't really integrated into European society...

 

I'm all for giving countries like Lebanon, Turkey and Jordan etc money to look after the Syrians, but I would be against mass Syrian migration into Europe.

[Kev Stephenson]

A refugee is supposed to claim asylum in the first port / country they reach. Most are not escaping purely for their safety they want a better life and I am sure if I were in the same situation I would want the same. They (most) are ILLEGAL immigrants when they reach the UK yet they are given homes, money, healthcare, etc.

 

However this country has major issues that need resolving before we pile any more on our plate. Numerous homeless, drug and alcohol dependants, starving and cold elderly people, children living in poverty, massive unemployment. We need to shut our borders to all people who do not bring something positive that the country needs. Housing should not be provided, healthcare should not be free and cash should not be given out.

 

I know these are harsh comments but why for example should my grandparents both work their entire life, pay a boat load of tax and save their whole working life have every penny and the house taken from them in old age for specialist care for one of them in a dementia home yet they share it with someone who has come to this country as a dependant of an illegal immigrant who gets identical care for free?

 

We need to get our house in order as the current rate of economic immigration will sink the country. I know the migrant crisis won't wait for us but something needs to be done to ensure refugees are helped (preferably in their own country) and illegal economic migration is stopped.

 

Let the abuse begin!!!

[kevinjohnsonmbe]

The question is.. What are our governments doing to help refugees in Syria?

It's very easy to sit back in our comfortable safe European homes and pass judgement.

I went to Bodrum in Turkey (where those photos were taken) on holiday a few years ago. It's given me a different perspective on the whole refugee/migrant situation.

It would be nice to see the UN and Europe do a LOT more to help.

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/455330/DFID_Syria_Crisis_Response_Summary__2015.08.20_.pdf

[matelot]

We need to get our house in order as the current rate of economic immigration will sink the country. I know the migrant crisis won't wait for us but something needs to be done to ensure refugees are helped (preferably in their own country) and illegal economic migration is stopped.

 

Let the abuse begin!!!

 

we need a like button on this site.

[Stubby]

My wife works in a doctors surgery and patients that have been with them all their life have to wait up to 2 weeks for an appointment they are so under the cosh . Jonny F. rocks up , just landed , and gets an appointment on the spot and gets registered there and then . They are snowed under as it is .....

[Gary Prentice]

A refugee is supposed to claim asylum in the first port / country they reach. Most are not escaping purely for their safety they want a better life and I am sure if I were in the same situation I would want the same. They (most) are ILLEGAL immigrants when they reach the UK yet they are given homes, money, healthcare, etc.

 

However this country has major issues that need resolving before we pile any more on our plate. Numerous homeless, drug and alcohol dependants, starving and cold elderly people, children living in poverty, massive unemployment. We need to shut our borders to all people who do not bring something positive that the country needs. Housing should not be provided, healthcare should not be free and cash should not be given out.

 

I know these are harsh comments but why for example should my grandparents both work their entire life, pay a boat load of tax and save their whole working life have every penny and the house taken from them in old age for specialist care for one of them in a dementia home yet they share it with someone who has come to this country as a dependant of an illegal immigrant who gets identical care for free?

 

We need to get our house in order as the current rate of economic immigration will sink the country. I know the migrant crisis won't wait for us but something needs to be done to ensure refugees are helped (preferably in their own country) and illegal economic migration is stopped.

 

Let the abuse begin!!!

 

Everyone seems to want to work/live in Australia and New Zealand. If you want to go there, you have to have something those countries need. Isn't that what you're saying Kev?

[TIMON]

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/455330/DFID_Syria_Crisis_Response_Summary__2015.08.20_.pdf

 

 

Thanks for this Kevin, very interesting.