Trees for nptc training !!!

[eggsarascal]

That's nothing! A training provider near me takes on work (clearance, thinnings, pruning etc), they gets paid to train lads for their tickets, gets them to do the work for part of their training, then takes the chipper training lads to clear up! He gets paid by the client, the trainees, everyone!

 

Sounds like he's got it just right.

[hamdogg]

That's nothing! A training provider near me takes on work (clearance, thinnings, pruning etc), they gets paid to train lads for their tickets, gets them to do the work for part of their training, then takes the chipper training lads to clear up! He gets paid by the client, the trainees, everyone!

 

 

Good idea!!

[openspaceman]

There is often a shortage of trees for training/assessment, particularly wind blown. Good offer Johnny!

 

My view too, windblown has to be <12 month down, nudging some with a digger may produce results.

Last lot wanted a few trees per assessment and 3 different types of winthrown, snapped hanging, rootplate tipping forward and back.

 

Good job I did all mine in 1991 when there were plantations of softwood down.

[Chris Sheppard]

That's nothing! A training provider near me takes on work (clearance, thinnings, pruning etc), they gets paid to train lads for their tickets, gets them to do the work for part of their training, then takes the chipper training lads to clear up! He gets paid by the client, the trainees, everyone!

 

If by charging the landowner less because the operators are all inexperienced and also then being able to use that to help reduce the costs of the training to make it more affordable for those wantng to undertake training then that's a great idea.

 

If the landowner are paying full whack for the work being done and the trainees paying full whack then it sits less well, maybe it's just me but it just feels wrong.

[felixthelogchopper]

If by charging the landowner less because the operators are all inexperienced and also then being able to use that to help reduce the costs of the training to make it more affordable for those wantng to undertake training then that's a great idea.

 

If the landowner are paying full whack for the work being done and the trainees paying full whack then it sits less well, maybe it's just me but it just feels wrong.

 

Strictly speaking, the work force would be untrained so I would be concerned about insurance issues if nothing else.

[Chris Sheppard]

I nearly added a bit like that before, not so much from the insurance side of things but more what sort of finish they may leave. I've been out on forestry sites where training providers had been beforehand and it wasn't good.

 

I know that may have just been isolated instances but it still happened - what the landowner was expecting and what was left were two totally different things.

[felixthelogchopper]

I nearly added a bit like that before, not so much from the insurance side of things but more what sort of finish they may leave. I've been out on forestry sites where training providers had been beforehand and it wasn't good.

 

I know that may have just been isolated instances but it still happened - what the landowner was expecting and what was left were two totally different things.

 

Exactly. Better off to do the way Johnny has and offer the work for training purposes.

[Johny Walker]

Bump !!!!🎄

[timbernut]

I have a college in to fell some of my trees while I'm out getting paid to fell other people's. Initially had trouble with chaotic mess and random lengths as most o the instructors are from arb not forestry backgrounds and students going into the same so I had to explain the importance of uniform lengths and impenetrable dead hedges and now everything's good EXCEPT when independent assessors come in and ignore specifically marked trees for felling and take ones down that I want left and then leave random little heaps of crosscut logs everywhere. I know of at least 4 other sites where,sadly, the owners won't be having training providers back. I think they just need to see the jobs right through which gives students a better idea of the importance of tidy site tidy mind= happy woodland owner😀

[Johny Walker]

bump

 

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