Elm ID?

[treerjb]

In hedgerow, chalk down in Wiltshire. Distinctive furrowed grey bark.

 

I was thinking Huntington Elm?

 

Ulmus x hollandica 'vegeta'

 

Any ideas?

[se7enthdevil]

i think i read somewhere that that can happen on your bog standard english elm. no rhyme or reason as to why i don't think.

[Mick Dempsey]

I've noticed young hedgerow elm have that bizarre bark formation as well. In Sussex and London etc.

[treerjb]

The leaves looked more elongated and more oblique at the base than english. The leaf surface neither rough nor smooth. Could well be a hybrid.

[lawranced1]

The leaves looked more elongated and more oblique at the base than english. The leaf surface neither rough nor smooth. Could well be a hybrid.

 

neither rough nor smooth? got to be 1 or the other.

[Stubby]

Elms that size here in West Sussex ( up the east wall in West dean Estate ) are exactly like that in the bark . They are suffering with DED

[kev7937]

Always thought the corky wings were standard, I'm sure they were one of the elm ident features we were taught at college.

[agg221]

Corky wings are standard on the English Elm strain. Leaves can vary depending on local growing conditions but it may be a hybrid with another U.minor. Less likely to be a hybrid with U.glabra as the leaves do not look as big as this usually produces.

 

Alec

[treerjb]

<neither rough nor smooth? got to be 1 or the other.>

 

Why? Surface metrology and degrees of roughness can be measured on a sliding scale.

 

So it can be defined as a unit such as Ra, or a friction coefficient

 

If the surface falls between two exremes such as rough and smooth then it cannot be defined explicitly, as one or the other.

[treerjb]

Many thanks, I was looking at shape and petiole size. I guess me using the bark as a gauge for Elm species was not a good method for distinction.