New 365 Lasted 10 Mins...

[MattyF]

From cold or hot? I would not cold start any saw with the break on ,no saw really likes it either..

[moorhead]

From cold or hot? I would not cold start any saw with the break on ,no saw really likes it either..

 

Cold. My 346xp starts with the brake on (I had it drummed into me as well) but when really cold I'll take the brake off before starting. Just a question of adjusting my habits, I suppose.

 

I have a feeling I'll be the owner of a 560xp within a year. Just a feeling...

[jrose]

Decided against the 441 then?

[MattyF]

My 560 will not cold start with the brake on I seem to remember my old 372 didn't either, personally I would never even try and cold start a saw with the chain brake on, I think it's ridiculous its taught you should be anticipating the chain moving when starting and in a clear space any way surely??Can not be doing saw clutches or brake bands any favours either.

[wyk]

Decided against the 441 then?

 

I think yer better off with the 461, Joe. It's the same weight, with a bit more torque for longer bars. How's yours been?

[moorhead]

Decided against the 441 then?

 

Decided against forking out an extra £200...

...Regretting it, of course!

[moorhead]

My 560 will not cold start with the brake on I seem to remember my old 372 didn't either, personally I would never even try and cold start a saw with the chain brake on, I think it's ridiculous its taught you should be anticipating the chain moving when starting and in a clear space any way surely??Can not be doing saw clutches or brake bands any favours either.

 

Just been lucky that I've always had saws that started cold with the brake on, I suppose! As you say, it makes sense regarding the clutch.

[littlerob]

If you use the decomp valve on the 365 you be pulling it till Christmas just wont kick up or fire they fead easy to start with out easier than a stihl 170

[adw]

A saw should start with the brake on, just check the condition of the clutch, sprocket bearing and wear on the crank journal, any wear on these items can cause starting issues with the brake on.

[tree_beard]

My 560 will not cold start with the brake on I seem to remember my old 372 didn't either, personally I would never even try and cold start a saw with the chain brake on, I think it's ridiculous its taught you should be anticipating the chain moving when starting and in a clear space any way surely??Can not be doing saw clutches or brake bands any favours either.

 

Handily, saws like the 372 with a (proper) separate choke knob, can be started without any fast idle, spinny chain nonsense.

 

Fire on full choke as normal, push in choke knob, click off fast idle with trigger, now pull the choke half way out and pull the saw over, it will start happily at idle speed.

 

Fast idle starting is a needless gimmick, half choke starting is much safer with brakeless saws/long bars and high compression saws that can jump about when drop started.