any loler inspectors done a zigzag yet

[andymum]

Sorry before im told off the actual remedy from petzl is use a fine grade sandpaper to remove burs but this still slowly reduces thickness of the side walls

[Dan Curtis]

Fine grade paper is very different to a file. My loler inspector uses sand paper on a few bits of my gear every six months.

 

What do you mean by "overtime impact fractures?

[TIMON]

Were u doing course bud

 

 

Doing the course at IAN MORGAN ARB..... Stafford

[andymum]

Well as i understand it if two peices of metal make contact with each other enought to cause damage iie wear that is impact and if this is ongoing it may cause a fracture causing item to structualy fail

[andymum]

Also yes fine sandpaper is not a file but they do the same remove material of strength from an item

[wood cutter]

I put a thread up the other week after talking to the petzl fella at the apf about this problem.

 

I have a feeling that they have again made a product not fit for purpose, as it seems not to be robust enough.

 

No way should you be filing down anything you climb on. Something is not right somewhere.

 

I just think that petzl have a huge problem, and although they say they are being honest ect, they can't afford to have this one recalled aswell!

 

On the note of the loler inspector, he won't want to put his name to any thing that might fail.

 

Good luck!

[Stubby]

I put a thread up the other week after talking to the petzl fella at the apf about this problem.

 

I have a feeling that they have again made a product not fit for purpose, as it seems not to be robust enough.

 

No way should you be filing down anything you climb on. Something is not right somewhere.

 

I just think that petzl have a huge problem, and although they say they are being honest ect, they can't afford to have this one recalled aswell!

 

On the note of the loler inspector, he won't want to put his name to any thing that might fail.

 

Good luck!

 

Also if Petzel tell you to file/paper it down are you invalidating any warranty or is it ok coz they said do it ?

[treequip]

Also if Petzel tell you to file/paper it down are you invalidating any warranty or is it ok coz they said do it ?

 

If its an official recommendation done to spec, it cant invalidate the warranty

[Craig Johnson]

If its an official recommendation done to spec, it cant invalidate the warranty

[Loler UK]

Hi I've examined quite a few, not had any that weren't fit for purpose yet, without seeing yours i cant really comment.

 

Removing sharp burrs with stone, file or paper is standard practice and I do it all the time, often on very minor chips/ burrs on pulleys, karabiners etc just need a tickle to ensure they wont damage any cordage. That said i would not recommend anyone without the practical knowledge and experience takes a file to their kit unless under the supervision/ instruction of someone that does.

 

Generally speaking damage of more than 10% would generate a fail however it depends on the item, its design & the location of the damage, a certain size chip in one place on a karabiner will weaken it far more than one in another, an even smaller chip on a mechanical device my render it dangerous due to its ability to impair its function.

 

Have Lyon seen a picture of the device? If you send it to them I'm sure that they would gladly look over it for you free of charge. The best thing you can do after that would be to encourage your examiner to open a dialogue with Lyon, he/she might still refuse to pass the item fit for purpose in which case maybe Lyon can do that for you or alternatively you can find someone else to examine your kit that doesn't agree that this defect is significant.

 

Hope that helps, Mike