UK Arb Industry

[Steve Bullman]

If I climb , I want to be paid... everyone to there own thing.....

Seen them before at shows and seem full of gear junkies.. Half the lads I see fly up the tree, but give them a saw and its game over.. As said each to there own

 

And you've seen them all with a saw in a tree, to be able to come to this conclusion have you?

[Mark Bolam]

Spag bol was delicious, but sadly no beers tonight Joe.

 

My thoughts-

 

Steve was spot on with his earlier comment. Quite a lot of work climbs are quite long drawn out affairs.

Seeing someone with skills take 10 or even 15 minutes to complete, often with no ascent included, has 2 negative effects.

One, its pretty boring and two, anyone with less experience having a crack at the comp scene is put off. They think, and probably rightly, they they may take 20 or 25 minutes to complete. Who wants to see that?

 

There was a cracking comp at Jonesies first show, timed from the ground, 4 targets and down into the circle.

Gun climbers like Steve and Rich Rule were nailing it in 3 minutes odd.

Smallish tree mind, but that just put the crowd nearer the action.

Less able, or extremely hungover climbers were all prepared to give it a shot because it was so short and sharp.

 

Some of the stations need looking at.

Apart from big deadwoods, who regularly uses a pole saw in the canopy?

 

Lets have some realism.

 

During a tricky branch-walk a fat retired bloke wearing mustard yellow trousers should scream 'You, tree man. Yes, you! Some sawdust has come into my garden, I've called the council'.

 

Who really throws logs into bucket?

The idea of throwing chogs is to NOT hit things.

The chogs should be greased with extra virgin olive oil to represent wet beech or syc, and suspended above a sheet of glass.

A scantily glad 18 year old with a lot of gym time (boy or girl depending on sex or preference of climber -I'm right PC, me) should appear at this point and start bending over a lot, just to test concentration levels.

 

Seriously, much more publicity and shorter climbs, especially for novices or vets, would be steps in the right direction IMO.

 

 

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Edited May 6, 2014 by Mark Bolam

[DrewB]

Seen them before at shows and seem full of gear junkies.. Half the lads I see fly up the tree, but give them a saw and its game over.. As said each to there own

 

I've worked with MOG a lot- your current champion and he is one of the quickest tree workers going from handsaw to crane to removals. I've worked with Scott, current world champion and he is possibly the quickest working climber I've ever seen. I think saying that most comp climbers are crap on a saw is total rubbish and just a screen to hide behind.

[DrewB]

I also agree that most masters climbs are pretty damn boring to watch...

[Ben Saxton]

The work climb was 7 minutes and it goes fast, I personally had to watch the work climb all day. I really enjoyed it, it's also interesting watching the rescue as you learn a lot that you could maybe have to use one day as the rescue method you learn on the cs38 is pretty basic.

[Ben Saxton]

Seen them before at shows and seem full of gear junkies.. Half the lads I see fly up the tree, but give them a saw and its game over.. As said each to there own

 

Most of the top competitors are either good contract climbers or own their own very reputable companies. To say they can't produce quality tree work is insulting really!!!

[jltree]

And you've seen them all with a saw in a tree, to be able to come to this conclusion have you?

 

That's why I said each to there own................

[Mark Bolam]

Making the whole event, not just the climb, more entertaining would help as well.

 

 

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[CJM]

This is the feedback that the powers that be need. Why are "90%" of the industry not interested in the UK yet here it draws a lot of people? What are the cultural differences? Is it that the comps arent fun enough? Too many rules? Elitist? Boring? I think these are the important things for the ITCC to know about to improve .

 

If I'm being honest we're just not interested in competitions. No one is really interested in climbing up a tree to touch some tags and throw logs in a bucket on a Saturday morning. I'd rather climb up a tree on a Saturday morning cut some bits off get paid then go home or nurse a hangover

 

Don't mean to be offensive to the competition climbers but that's how it is.

[jltree]

If I'm being honest we're just not interested in competitions. No one is really interested in climbing up a tree to touch some tags and throw logs in a bucket on a Saturday morning. I'd rather climb up a tree on a Saturday morning cut some bits off get paid then go home or nurse a hangover

 

Don't mean to be offensive to the competition climbers but that's how it is.

 

sure you will offend someone, as not hard sometimes but your thinking is the way forward.. If I am not getting paid I want my bed or a hot blondes,,