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Another vote here for Burley if you just want room heat. We got ours going about mid December and couldn't be happier with it, very easy to look after, all the pleasure of an open fire but so much more heat from the same amount of wood. Haven't had the central heating on since it was installed as it's fairly centrally located in the house allowing the heat to spread.

 

A few points, as Stubby says have no concerns about the plate steel stoves ability to retain heat, it does and very well too! Also, we decided to fit it with the original built chimney knowing we could retro fit a flexible flue liner if required but there's been no problems whatsoever. Now that might not always be the case but some people will try to say that you MUST ALWAYS fit a flue liner and that is plainly not correct. Finally, if you have quite an air tight house definitely give serious consideration to a stove that will allow a room seal kit. Not much point having a nice warm stove only to have to cut a hole in the wall and essentially allow cold air in to the room to allow it to burn. Far more sensible to bring the cold air directly in to the stove and keep the warm air in the room.

 

Good luck with your search but before getting too hung up with brands or types, have a long think about what you actually need first. Your two big decisions are multi-fuel or wood only and boiler or non-boiler. Once you've sorted that out your search will become a lot simpler.

 

 

Agree totally. Ours pumps out approx 18 kw, but we are all open plan, the heat goes upstairs etc. If the room was closed no way would you need the bigger stove. Our room is also room sealed so all the warmth remains.

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We have a Firefox on the boat and it's defo not as good as the Moros we had on are last boat.

A rare one is the elm stove, it's built in Vermont but they do a euro version, people are running 30 year old ones no worries and warming a house at minus 20. Puka kit, it's what we will put in our next place.

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sorry to jump in on this thread,

at the moment we have open fire, in rented property, whats the set up with fitting a burner H&S etc, cert's etc ..would not want to leave it as and when we ever move

fire place 22h x 8d x 17w inch but have 12 "hearth

 

would be just for warmth, not water, rad's, boiler etc

 

because being in rented, did wonder purely because there small in size about the Machine mart type stuff :blushing:. fully understand you get what you pay for. & did see the keep away from type message further up the post

 

but main concern is the fitting

 

oh ye was I told correct info few yrs ago

open fire 25% warms room 75% heat wasted up chimmey

log burner 75% warms room/s and yes 25% up chimmey ?????

 

thanks

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sorry to jump in on this thread,

at the moment we have open fire, in rented property, whats the set up with fitting a burner H&S etc, cert's etc ..would not want to leave it as and when we ever move

fire place 22h x 8d x 17w inch but have 12 "hearth

 

would be just for warmth, not water, rad's, boiler etc

 

because being in rented, did wonder purely because there small in size about the Machine mart type stuff :blushing:. fully understand you get what you pay for. & did see the keep away from type message further up the post

 

but main concern is the fitting

 

oh ye was I told correct info few yrs ago

open fire 25% warms room 75% heat wasted up chimmey

log burner 75% warms room/s and yes 25% up chimmey ?????

 

thanks

 

Think you'd want to fit something you can just pull out when cleaning chimney or taking to your next home, so fairly small obviously.

You obviously don't intend using a liner, so a register plate that is removable and flue that can be removed and reassembled for cleaning purposes.

Register plate should be sealed, also flue, fire cement is inexpensive and can be scraped out on removal and replaced when reinstalled.

A correct sized liner from stove to chimney pot will make stove perform best, but I guess not always essential for short term installation.

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Just a word of caution I think that mine at least is rated at 5kw nominal . Realistically it punts out more than that . It heats the whole house not just the room its in . The back room and up the stairs . I used the formula for the size of room and it came out at just under 4kw required but went for the 5kw coz of the back room having no door on it but it does heat much more than I thought . I think it better to have a smaller stove burning properly than a big stove ticking over all the time ( in terms of chimney cleanliness and glass staying clear . Also sitting around in your shreddies mid winter seems wrong !

 

Good point :biggrin:

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Just a word of caution I think that mine at least is rated at 5kw nominal . Realistically it punts out more than that . It heats the whole house not just the room its in . The back room and up the stairs . I used the formula for the size of room and it came out at just under 4kw required but went for the 5kw coz of the back room having no door on it but it does heat much more than I thought . I think it better to have a smaller stove burning properly than a big stove ticking over all the time ( in terms of chimney cleanliness and glass staying clear . Also sitting around in your shreddies mid winter seems wrong !

 

Sound advice as usual stubby, I guess we can recommend all kinds of stoves but heat retention of the house it's installed in is a critical too.

The joys of keepin warm!!

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Sound advice as usual stubby, I guess we can recommend all kinds of stoves but heat retention of the house it's installed in is a critical too.

The joys of keepin warm!!

 

Exactly, we have a 2 bedroom house and have a 4kw morso squirrel heating the whole house and the water no other heating used at all. All down to a well insulated house with good double glazing.

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Exactly, we have a 2 bedroom house and have a 4kw morso squirrel heating the whole house and the water no other heating used at all. All down to a well insulated house with good double glazing.

 

Sounds like a good system bob.

Different strokes for different folks!

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Sound advice as usual stubby, I guess we can recommend all kinds of stoves but heat retention of the house it's installed in is a critical too.

The joys of keepin warm!!

 

HI MULL as stubby SAID better with larger stove on a old house i was told a 8/10KW stove will our room but it does not run it so i got a euro heat 16kw stove:thumbup1: thats nice I DO NOT USE THE GAS:thumbdown: SO THEN I CAN BUY A NEW SAW EACH YEAR WITH MY GAS SAVING:thumbup1: THANKS JON :thumbup:

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