5th wheel coupling to tow a bandsawmill

[difflock]

Bugger that!

I thought I had had a truely origional idea.

But Yes that was my notion.

[woody3]

just use a 5th wheel dolly?

[difflock]

I dont think a 5th wheel dolly would qualify as a fifth wheel vehicle connection/link-up.

Since I would still be using the 50mm towball on the vehicle.

Which means I would still be stuck with the 7m trailer length.

[dangeroussteve]

You need to sit another test unless you have your artic licence. Think its b+c basically mini artic test

 

 

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[Daniël Bos]

How about re-plating your beloved Puch to 3501 Kg mam?

It would put it in the Lgv bracket which for private use will make no financial difference to you but allows you to pull a 12m trailer.

[difflock]

Rover, that would be the absolute simplest solution, providing up to a 12m trailer.

But;

(i)Owt over 3500kg = tacho for "hire or reward", which hire or reward being the only reason I would wish to take the Mill on the public highway.

(ii) I more than suspect that "up-plating" is so much more difficult than "downplating", in respect of Axle capacity, final drive ratios and better brakes required for the greater loads.

A few of the Styer Puch's visually identical to mine, were plated at 4000kg/4500kg, BUT with uprated axles with lower final drive ratios.

Might do some homework though.

marcus

Simplest solution though is to buy an Iveco van/chassis cab plated at anywhere over 4000kg

[Daniël Bos]

I could be wrong (it has happened before, 1982 it was..) but the way I understand it is whether or not the movement is for hire or reward, for example moving the wood you are to cut or the planks you have cut to or from a customer. Moving a tool to use in your trade is not that and thus exempt?

[aspenarb]

I could be wrong (it has happened before, 1982 it was..) but the way I understand it is whether or not the movement is for hire or reward, for example moving the wood you are to cut or the planks you have cut to or from a customer. Moving a tool to use in your trade is not that and thus exempt?

 

I was wondering about the status of the mill once its all together. Is it not then a piece of plant and not a trailer anymore?? What defines something you tow as a trailer.?

 

Bob

[treequip]

I could be wrong (it has happened before, 1982 it was..) but the way I understand it is whether or not the movement is for hire or reward, for example moving the wood you are to cut or the planks you have cut to or from a customer. Moving a tool to use in your trade is not that and thus exempt?

 

That would be an accurate description for the conditions of an operator's licence but in general terms moving a sawmill to a punters property to mill their timber will probably be an activity for hire or reward.

 

The test of that would be, if you didn't move the mill there would be no hire or reward, therefore moving it to the area its going to work in is part of the hire.

[aspenarb]

I reckon you are ok as is with the mill. Often wondered why the glider trailers were allowed on the road. A mill constructed on a trailer would be an indivisible load.

 

Bob

 

http://www.gliding.co.uk/forms/trailer-supplement.pdf

Edited January 18, 2014 by aspenarb