what does a firewood sale cost you in timber?

[nick channer]

How you guys get those prices is beyond me.

All around me and there are dozens, all professionals not one hit wonders,with all latest kit etc are selling 1.5 loads at £80-100

The odd one £90 a bag.

But he will sit on one artic load all winter and when it's gone it's gone..

All depends how you put your labour into equation.

When we did lot tree work the lads would split till 5 after tree jobs.

That to me was free labour for 2-3 men for couple hours every day as if they had no logs would go home with same pay.

Lot farmers do firewood to keep their workers busy in winter spring etc as do we.

We have to pay them regardless and although they would be doing something not always case that it would earn us anything or benefit us.

Just finding them things to do for sake it basically.

[R5log]

Some people are happy to earn less, sell good wood and turn up on time.

Simples!

[Mortimer Firewood]

How you guys get those prices is beyond me.

All around me and there are dozens, all professionals not one hit wonders,with all latest kit etc are selling 1.5 loads at £80-100

The odd one £90 a bag.

But he will sit on one artic load all winter and when it's gone it's gone..

All depends how you put your labour into equation.

When we did lot tree work the lads would split till 5 after tree jobs.

That to me was free labour for 2-3 men for couple hours every day as if they had no logs would go home with same pay.

Lot farmers do firewood to keep their workers busy in winter spring etc as do we.

We have to pay them regardless and although they would be doing something not always case that it would earn us anything or benefit us.

Just finding them things to do for sake it basically.

 

Nick

I put my price up to £105 for new and 95 for reg for a single m3 or 2.4 for 200 if I went higher I would not sell.

If I add everything in including paying back savings for kits I am probably making £50 a cube Are they all selling big quantity round you Nick ?

[gensetsteve]

The way I worked it out was I sold 1.5 cube for £130 delivered. There was a tonne of green wood in there. We paid £40 a tonne for cord the rest of the costs made it up to £65. So for 3 hours work inc delivery time I got £20 an hour. Now its still £130 for 1.5 cubic metres if your lucky to get that with so many doing logs. But cord is £60 a tonne now.

[Mortimer Firewood]

2.2 to 2.5 cube to a ton

Quote me if I'm wrong

 

Weighed my £200 load of green Oak cut at 8-10 inch at 1.2 tons which is 2.7 cube

 

So £55 a ton leaves £65 ish of cord to make £200 of logs

 

So in a lorry load roughly £4000 delivered

 

Mark up is 2 thirds

 

How are you getting that much from a tonne are you buying in very dry wood?

I've had a driver who has scales on his grab drop a tonne of fresh cord by the processor and once split it makes 2m3.

[ash_smith123]

Yea i have always worked it out at 1.5 cubic metres out of a ton of cord.

[gensetsteve]

Yea i have always worked it out at 1.5 cubic metres out of a ton of cord.

 

I worked on 1.5 cu to a tonne if I got more great. Most retailers work on 100% mark up without putting any labour into the end product. So really you should put a mark up on the material costs then charge for you labour at say £20 per hr. To make it worth while I worked out I need £120 for materials + 2.5 hrs labour so £165 for 1.5 cu metres cant get it so stopped doing logs.

[Woodworks]

So we have some saying you can get 2.25 m3 per ton and others say 1.5 m3. This seems excessive variation. Just by going on how our tractor handles with a wet cube in an IBC I would have said 1m3 of wet logs was around 500 kg so 2m3 per ton but not very scientific.

[farmer_ben]

I wasnt really interested in labour costs, total cost of firewood sale rtc, as them to variables can be huge. Was just interested in others %of timber cost p3r sale. And seems that who has replied are all simialr.

[Alycidon]

How you guys get those prices is beyond me.

All around me and there are dozens, all professionals not one hit wonders,with all latest kit etc are selling 1.5 loads at £80-100

The odd one £90 a bag.

But he will sit on one artic load all winter and when it's gone it's gone..

All depends how you put your labour into equation.

When we did lot tree work the lads would split till 5 after tree jobs.

That to me was free labour for 2-3 men for couple hours every day as if they had no logs would go home with same pay.

Lot farmers do firewood to keep their workers busy in winter spring etc as do we.

We have to pay them regardless and although they would be doing something not always case that it would earn us anything or benefit us.

Just finding them things to do for sake it basically.

 

Big kit does cut production costs. my little processor does 8 -10 cube a day single handed cutting at 240mm. Using say a Posch 360 then 25-30 cube should be do able.

 

Transport out to customers + delivery time, going 20 miles is expensive and either charged separately or built into the price. Currently I build it in and insist on minimum volumes over a certain distance, however maybe I should have a lower price per bag and charge the carriage as a separate item. That way customers might even be encouraged to collect, had a bloke turn up this morning, wanted to put a cube bag into a biggish Astra van. It did go in after a struggle.

 

 

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