Tractor & forwarding trailer qualifications

[Timber terrier]

Hi

Can anyone advise me whether the fmoc training is a must or an option??

Can't seem to find the relevant answers!?

I own/use my rig and have no employees, am guessing if I were to contract my forwarding services out then I'd fall foul of this?

Thanks for looking

[County 764]

You'd need it to work on forestry commission ground and to work for most of the big firms. I don't bother with fmoc yet, no need don't work for them

[treedave]

As with all quals, the problems arise if something goes wrong. Putting aside the FC, EA, Nat. Eng work. If you can't show you've been suitably trained for a piece of kit and there's an investigation (EA ,HSE & Police if it's on the road) when something goes wrong, it ain't gonna help. The training and proof of competence is needed under PUWER and no, the self employed can't dodge it.

Gotta say, I learnt a lot from doing my FMO tickets. As well as an aversion to writing big cheques!

 

 

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[agrimog]

and your driving licence isnt proof youve been trained, how?

[Timber terrier]

Thanks for the replies. I can see what you're saying Treedave and appreciate the advice. Don't really intend working for fc or any of the like tbh.

Anyone know the date when a bloke trying to earn a living was deemed not capable of being responsible for himself?? Drives me nuts

[Goaty]

Anyone know the date when a bloke trying to earn a living was deemed not capable of being responsible for himself?? Drives me nuts

 

I think it was in the 90s. When welfare and sponging became a lifestyle choice. Less people to generate money, therefore speed cameras and over parasitic ways of getting money came to the fore. Therefore use white collar to administer theory and teach those who are already getting on with it.

 

Reason for my dates. Would the miners, dockers, farmers etc of the 80s let it happen? Now none of these exist in the quantity they did.

[Timber terrier]

I think it was in the 90s. When welfare and sponging became a lifestyle choice. Less people to generate money, therefore speed cameras and over parasitic ways of getting money came to the fore. Therefore use white collar to administer theory and teach those who are already getting on with it.

 

Reason for my dates. Would the miners, dockers, farmers etc of the 80s let it happen? Now none of these exist in the quantity they did.

 

A very good point!

[timbernut]

I think it was in the 90s. When welfare and sponging became a lifestyle choice. Less people to generate money, therefore speed cameras and over parasitic ways of getting money came to the fore. Therefore use white collar to administer theory and teach those who are already getting on with it.

 

Reason for my dates. Would the miners, dockers, farmers etc of the 80s let it happen? Now none of these exist in the quantity they did.

 

:) grrr thatcher got rid I them :(:(

[LGP Eddie]

You only need to provide proof of competence should the worst happen and the FMO is a very easy way of doing this.

There is no requirement to use this scheme unless your client expressly insists on it, and you can get a reputable training provider to give you some specific training in line with your current competence/experience then issue you with an in house certificate.

 

This is all getting out of hand with card schemes overlapping and costing a fortune for operators, but the flip side is standing in the dock at the inquest spluttering about how you've driven one for years?

 

Where does it end though? If I jump on a tractor would I eventually need one for every implement I use with it?

 

The jobs on it's arse!

 

Eddie.

[timbernut]

Been forwarding with MF390 and mowi trailer for several years with no ticket. Keep meaning to do it. Can anyone tell me cost and if there anywhere in east anglia where I could do it please?