Show us your Arb Diggers please.

[Stihl123]

11 hours ago, topchippyles said:

what size pins are they as i may have a grapple here for it.

thanks mate, pins are 30mm

[LeeGray]

13 hours ago, doobin said:

That's worrying. What Yanmar are you comparing it to? For the money you'd think it would be the mutts nuts- the E27 is one of the more expensive machines on the market. How much did you pay?

 

Edit- I've just checked the specs, and on paper the Bobcat E27 has more bucket force, substantially more dipperstick force for the same max reach, more dump height and slightly faster tracking. The only place it gives ground to the Yanmar is a slightly slower slew, but if that translates to slew torque then the above makes it sounds like it would make a better arb digger for handling timber and loading fires.

B25v, predecessor of the sv26.

i looked at the specs a lot too but it doesn’t translate to real world. I was won over by the fact it was local and by tight pins, comfortable seat, stuff that worked etc but all new machine would have that.Try them all on demo first for at least a week would be my advice.

[doobin]

Is yours the dx27 or the dx27z? How old? 

 

 

Edit- just worked it out. The dx27z is the only one they do, and it’s different from any of the new bobcat ones. Looks like the e10, e17 and e19 have doosan equivalents but then the dx27z has a yanmar engine rather than kubota, and less spec than the bobcat e27z. The bobcat e27 has a bigger engine than either and much more power. 

Edited June 7, 2019 by doobin

[Matthew Storrs]

41 minutes ago, doobin said:

Is yours the dx27 or the dx27z? How old? 

 

 

Edit- just worked it out. The dx27z is the only one they do, and it’s different from any of the new bobcat ones. Looks like the e10, e17 and e19 have doosan equivalents but then the dx27z has a yanmar engine rather than kubota, and less spec than the bobcat e27z. The bobcat e27 has a bigger engine than either and much more power. 

Not trying to put you off but suspect paper specs might not stand up to real world performance. Local groundwork contractor ran bobcat 2.8ts for years but had a bad experience with his latest which was a Bobcat zero 2.8t (not sure exact model no) said he couldn’t live with it and ended up trading it in for a Hitachi (which I’ve used as is a good machine zx27, but think they’ve stopped doing conventional tails in this size now).

 

I think you will bitterly regret going for a zero 2.8t for arb work. If access is that much of an issue you’d just put your smaller machine in there anyway. The great thing about the Yanmar sv26 is it is 1550mm wide AND conventional tail- stable as they get. Less HP than the bobcat but bigger displacement....

Edited June 7, 2019 by Matthew Storrs

[donnk]

my old table from when i was looking at 3 tonners, the E26 is a good competitor to the kubota albeit with a lot less power.

 

[Matthew Storrs]

12 minutes ago, donnk said:

my old table from when i was looking at 3 tonners, the E26 is a good competitor to the kubota albeit with a lot less power.

 

Not sure where you found those figures but Kx17-4 was 20kw but the newer Kx030-4 has dropped to 17.7, it is the only one that had 4 cylinders though. Have you looked at the Volvo EC27D Doobin- might be a contender?

[doobin]

12 minutes ago, Matthew Storrs said:

Not sure where you found those figures but Kx17-4 was 20kw but the newer Kx030-4 has dropped to 17.7, it is the only one that had 4 cylinders though. Have you looked at the Volvo EC27D Doobin- might be a contender?

Yes, all 2.5 tonners have either 15 or 18kw engines now due to Euro 4 or 5 and the need to keep them under the limits at which add blue is needed.

 

The Volvo I like the build quality of, but it's now only 14.8 KW sadly...

[doobin]

42 minutes ago, Matthew Storrs said:

Not trying to put you off but suspect paper specs might not stand up to real world performance. Local groundwork contractor ran bobcat 2.8ts for years but had a bad experience with his latest which was a Bobcat zero 2.8t (not sure exact model no) said he couldn’t live with it and ended up trading it in for a Hitachi (which I’ve used as is a good machine zx27, but think they’ve stopped doing conventional tails in this size now).

 

I think you will bitterly regret going for a zero 2.8t for arb work. If access is that much of an issue you’d just put your smaller machine in there anyway. The great thing about the Yanmar sv26 is it is 1550mm wide AND conventional tail- stable as they get. Less HP than the bobcat but bigger displacement....

 Fully agree re ZTS- the Bobcat E27 is the CTS version of the E27z with an extra 3KW (1.3l engine compared to 1l) and huge spec- 3 and 5.1km/hr on tracking, rollers for aux lines and boom swing, 24KN breakout, 3.2m dump height, and...currently 5 years 0%!!!

 

Watch this space...

[donnk]

1 hour ago, doobin said:

Yes, all 2.5 tonners have either 15 or 18kw engines now due to Euro 4 or 5 and the need to keep them under the limits at which add blue is needed.

 

The Volvo I like the build quality of, but it's now only 14.8 KW sadly...

that makes sense, the table is couple years old now.

[topchippyles]

3 hours ago, Stihl123 said:

thanks mate, pins are 30mm

Same as my yanmar b-15 ,I will take some photos as it on my machine at the moment and will upload them tomorrow 

Edited June 7, 2019 by topchippyles