Show us your Arb Diggers please.

[LGP Eddie]

55 minutes ago, Gray git said:

10 hours ago, donnk said:

rubber duck!
 
No transport costs, drive it to site.

Definitely see a lot of them in Europe being used in tree work but how good they are off Rd I'm not sure, been one about 12t I'd guess with a 3 piece boom working on scotch corner for quite a while and seen him dragging himself around with the bucket quite a few times on just slightly wet ground. Very strange seeing them off down the road, would like to know how the hub motors would hold up to any distance at full speed?

Depends what type of machine and how you spec the Tyres.

They don’t use hub motors, they have a hydraulic motor to the Transmission and traditional axles, but we’ll see more with straightforward direct drive coming, now JCB have totally turned the job on it’s head with the Hydradig.

 

It’s incredible the difference in stability having the Engine down below the Slew ring, and if you know where to go, you can have a Hydradig pushing out 200hp no issues, extra pumps the lot.

 

With Mecalac’s advances and the stealing of JCB’s concept by others inevitable, expect some seriously versatile and easy to use Ducks coming through.

 

 

Eddie.

[Gray git]

Depends what type of machine and how you spec the Tyres.
They don’t use hub motors, they have a hydraulic motor to the Transmission and traditional axles, but we’ll see more with straightforward direct drive coming, now JCB have totally turned the job on it’s head with the Hydradig.
 
It’s incredible the difference in stability having the Engine down below the Slew ring, and if you know where to go, you can have a Hydradig pushing out 200hp no issues, extra pumps the lot.
 
With Mecalac’s advances and the stealing of JCB’s concept by others inevitable, expect some seriously versatile and easy to use Ducks coming through.
 
 
Eddie.

That could really open up a can with dsva when they spot a digger go bobbing past. But run right could be a perfect match to tree work.
Howd you rate tge bobcat E26?

[LGP Eddie]

4 minutes ago, Gray git said:

That could really open up a can with dsva when they spot a digger go bobbing past. But run right could be a perfect match to tree work.
Howd you rate tge bobcat E26?

Towing is a total No and it’s ridiculous that a Hydradig can’t even tow a 3.5 tonne trailer with its own attachments on to site.

There is no logical reason for this, and JCB are working hard to reverse it.

Towing bigger and loaded with goods trailers is obviously a non starter.

 

The Hydradig I had for a couple of days would do 47k on the flat and downhill in reasonable comfort with the smooth ride system on.

I had it on three sites in one day, no hassle to drive between, just like a Backhoe, really rated it.

 

Sorry don’t get near a Bobcat, never see them, no dealers near here.

 

 

Eddie.

[donnk]

8 hours ago, Gray git said:

That could really open up a can with dsva when they spot a digger go bobbing past. But run right could be a perfect match to tree work.
Howd you rate tge bobcat E26?

Not really. They are road regstered, taxed and MOT exempt so fully legal.

 

[donnk]

11 hours ago, LGP Eddie said:

Depends what type of machine and how you spec the Tyres.

They don’t use hub motors, they have a hydraulic motor to the Transmission and traditional axles, but we’ll see more with straightforward direct drive coming, now JCB have totally turned the job on it’s head with the Hydradig.

 

It’s incredible the difference in stability having the Engine down below the Slew ring, and if you know where to go, you can have a Hydradig pushing out 200hp no issues, extra pumps the lot.

 

With Mecalac’s advances and the stealing of JCB’s concept by others inevitable, expect some seriously versatile and easy to use Ducks coming through.

 

 

Eddie.

Not that impressed with it to be honest.

 

Much better machines in EU which beat it in lift, reach, capacity. They have been running proper ducks with 3 piece booms for years.

 

There is a duck that does tow a trailer, you can read about it on Earthmovers. I guess its all down to how its classed on the V5. Would be emminanty sensible for a 18 ton duck to be able to tow a 10 ton trailer, they are speed restricted to 30kph unlike the tractors you see bombing along driven by a 18 year old pole.

 

 

[LGP Eddie]

1 hour ago, donnk said:

Not that impressed with it to be honest.

 

Much better machines in EU which beat it in lift, reach, capacity. They have been running proper ducks with 3 piece booms for years.

 

There is a duck that does tow a trailer, you can read about it on Earthmovers. I guess its all down to how its classed on the V5. Would be emminanty sensible for a 18 ton duck to be able to tow a 10 ton trailer, they are speed restricted to 30kph unlike the tractors you see bombing along driven by a 18 year old pole.

 

 

Yes plenty of UK Ducks have trailers, On Site, they aren’t legal for the road end of.

It’ll almost certainly be Ollie Kitchin you’re talking about in Earthmovers, good mate of mine, cost him a fortune getting him on the Engcon path, and he now thinks he’s half Swedish!

Great setup he has.

 

JCB ended up with egg on face, despite going through the motions of putting a 3.5 tonne trailer behind some 11 plus tonne of Hydradig,

alongside a loaded 3.5 tonne trailer and double cab pickup.

Not hard to prove which one had absolutely no issues towing or stopping, but the authorities won’t have it.

 

Guys are using transport frames hooked over the blade or straight onto linkage frames that are popular in Scandinavia.

The addition of a linkage frame transforms the Wheeled Excavator concept, you can even fit Hydraulic PTO to a Hydradig if required.

 

I don’t know what model you’re not impressed with?

I was on a Two Piece Boom Duck in 96,   they aren’t unusual at all on Wheeled Machines.

 

Nice loader linkage frame, just add your own imagination on a Hydradig.?

 

 

 

Eddie.

[LGP Eddie]

Here’s the statement from JCB, the grey area is the ability to tow engineering plant, which most take to include something with it’s own engine, but some are saying fuel bowsers are ok too?

I suppose an engine driven pump would cover that?

 

Certainly you could see a self powered chipper being ok under this regulation, but how ridiculous it all is you’d never know!

 

Here’s a screenshot of the official statement on it.

 

 

 

Eddie.

[dig-dug-dan]

2 hours ago, LGP Eddie said:

Here’s the statement from JCB, the grey area is the ability to tow engineering plant, which most take to include something with it’s own engine, but some are saying fuel bowsers are ok too?

I suppose an engine driven pump would cover that?

 

Certainly you could see a self powered chipper being ok under this regulation, but how ridiculous it all is you’d never know!

 

Here’s a screenshot of the official statement on it.

 

 

 

Eddie.

Had no idea such a rule existed. It deffo needs changing!

[Stihllymok]

Love the Hydradig concept, glad JCB doing something different and at leats its a UK company just a shame they cant come up with a decent 2.7Tish #towablewithalttacmentnts all rounder machine.

 

Presume Telehandler like Merlo is covered by different legislation?

 

lot round us with hitches etc. At Grass time we see some interesting road trains...?

Edited January 3, 2019 by Stihllymok

[LGP Eddie]

44 minutes ago, dig-dug-dan said:

Had no idea such a rule existed. It deffo needs changing!

Yes it’s absolutely ridiculous, Trailer’s could be overrun braked up to 3.5 tonne and coupled brakes over that no issues.

Its all proven and other countries have it as standard setups.

 

The ability to tow simply attachments and the trailer itself to site would make a huge difference to options available.

 

Sales would certainly increase from it.

 

 

Eddie.