VOSA and Driver CPC

[Hawkes Trees]

We run a 7.5 tonne truck under an operators licence and UK domestic rules (No tacho within 30 miles radius of operating centre) Does anyone know if my drivers will be required to carry out the 35hrs Driver CPC training prior to next year please?

 

Kind regards

 

Steve

[phirow]

Really really check this out this seems to have died a death.

Ring Swansea

[Daniël Bos]

No they won't if their job is not driving the truck.

 

From DSA:

 

Vehicles carrying material or equipment to be used in the course of the driver’s work

You don’t need Driver CPC if you’re carrying equipment or material that you’ll use in the course of your work, provided that driving the vehicle is not the main part of your job.

 

This includes:

 

trade tools

goods such as building materials or cables

[treequip]

No they won't if their job is not driving the truck.

 

From DSA:

 

Vehicles carrying material or equipment to be used in the course of the driver’s work

You don’t need Driver CPC if you’re carrying equipment or material that you’ll use in the course of your work, provided that driving the vehicle is not the main part of your job.

 

This includes:

 

trade tools

goods such as building materials or cables

 

Will that exemption include carting waste away?

[Paul Smith]

PARA 21 covers that.

[Daniël Bos]

They give a few examples on their website, which makes me think you don't.

 

Driver A:

Driver A is a mobile LGV engineer. They drive a vehicle from one operator’s site to another site where they take their tools from the vehicle to do their main activity of servicing LGVs. They don’t need to have Driver CPC.

They would also be covered by the exemption if they use an engine diagnostic kit that’s fixed within the vehicle, because the vehicle carries material or equipment for their use on site.

 

Driver B

Driver B is a self-employed bricklayer who drives their LGV to a building site with a load of bricks. They unload the bricks and use them in the construction of a house. They don’t need to have Driver CPC because driving the LGV is not their main activity and they’re carrying materials to use in the course of their bricklaying work.

 

Driver C

Driver C drives an LGV with a generator fixed to the bed of the vehicle. Driving is not their main activity. They drive to road maintenance sites where the generator is used to power site equipment. They do various tasks at the site including monitoring the generator to make sure it’s operating correctly and providing the site with power. They don’t need to have Driver CPC.

 

Driver D

Driver D works in the stores department of a company that supplies car parts. Occasionally, they have to drive one of the company’s LGVs to deliver parts to retail outlets.

Although the driving occupies only a very small amount of their working time, Driver D needs to have Driver CPC when making those deliveries because they’re driving a vehicle which is carrying materials for someone else’s use.

 

Driver E

Driver E is a farmer. Once a month they drive their animals to a local cattle market for auction. They need to have Driver CPC when doing this as they aren’t carrying materials or equipment to be used by them in the course of their work. The farmer is carrying cattle intended for sale.

 

Driver F

Driver F is a farmer. Twice a month they drive an LGV on public roads around their farm to repair fences. The vehicle carries the tools and materials necessary to make these repairs. Driver F does not need Driver CPC because they’re carrying materials that they’ll use in the course of their work to repair fences. The idea of ‘materials’ can be interpreted broadly to include materials at the heart of the activity of a farmer.

 

Driver G

Driver G is employed by a farmer as a labourer. Twice a day he drives a minibus taking workers from the local town to various fields on the farm. Driving takes up a relatively small part of their day – most of their shift is spent with the other workers picking crops. Driver G needs Driver CPC because they’re transporting the other labourers – they’re not carrying materials or equipment.

 

Driver H

Driver H is employed as a mobile crane operator. They drive the vehicle with the crane to a building site, where they operate the crane, helping to build a new factory.

Driver H does not need Driver CPC because their main activity is not driving and they’re carrying tools and materials (the crane) to be used in the course of their work.

 

Driver I*

Driver I is employed as a valet. Their main task is cleaning vehicles when they’re returned from hire, and then taking them to a new hirer. The driving takes up a relatively small part of their day, but Driver I needs Driver CPC because they’re not carrying goods or materials for use in the course of their work. The only purpose of the journey is to deliver the vehicle they’re driving.

[Johny Walker]

Will that exemption include carting waste away?

 

what waste is this you speak of

[treequip]

what waste is this you speak of

 

Chortle.....

[Gray git]

What is the definition of lgv? More than 3.5 t or would my landy or transit be in this cattogry?

[Daniël Bos]

What is the definition of lgv? More than 3.5 t or would my landy or transit be in this cattogry?

 

C(1) (+E) and D(1) (+E)

So over 3.5t or more than 8 passenger seats.