Karabiners failing loler inspection.

[Mr. Squirrel]

I don't bother with Loler'ing my kit and I guess this is part of why. Brand new krabs shouldn't fail. It could be a manufacturer issue, but it could equally be an overly peniticy tester. On the other side I've also known testers pass prussik loops made from old dynamic 1/2 ropes they bought off ebay.

What's the end result? Kit which has failed being used anyway, kit that should never have passed being used. In which case what was the point in the first place?

[Peter]

I think you'll find its spelt pernickety.

[Gary Prentice]

I think you'll find its spelt pernickety.

 

now you're just being pernickety.....

[Highland Forestry]

I did the LOLER inspectors course a couple years back (Thorough Examination of Arboricultural Equipment)..

It was my understanding that when testing carabiners, they must close when snapping shut... As in you hold the gate open with the twist and then let it go, as nobody should ever be closing carabiners slowly in order to make sure they snap shut as the manufacturers have designed them to do so.

 

If they are slightly sticky, and unused - it may be that the lubrication paste used by the manufacturers whilst assembling them has become old and slightly harder than it should be.

I would suggest soaking the carabiners for a couple hours in some hot water with ferry liquid, working the gate in the water and then drying off and applying some graphite paste to the gate mechanism.

If this dosent work then I would remove them from service as a precaution - demote them to accessory clips or some other application that does not fall wihtin the scope of LOLER.

[Mr. Squirrel]

I think you'll find its spelt pernickety.

 

I really should have spell checked that one...

[High Scale]

I remember some years back that there was a problem with a batch of NEW ISC Mongoose carabiners.

[Peter]

Yes, I still have one. You can stand the gate on the nose every time, but they are perfectly safe when used correctly. Lots of them got failed for it though.

[High Scale]

Yes, I still have one. You can stand the gate on the nose every time, but they are perfectly safe when used correctly. Lots of them got failed for it though.

 

Yeah I have one still.

[Marc]

I've put out of action all of my DMM carabiners got tired of the maintenance they needed, that's not a slight on DMM mind more me as an individual and climber, I use mostly Petzl and Rock Exotica as they are less fussy and can go months without a clean the savings in WD-40 and graphite powder are immense.

 

Personally I'd never fail a DMM biner unless it didn't snap shut from an almost closed position even after cleaning and living.