Working in the upper most crown.

[Mark Bolam]

What if you just have one or two rogue leaders that are powerering out way beyond the others and they are annoying the customer to a point where they just want the tips off to bring the canopy shape back.

 

Or bringing in a branch tiny bit by tiny bit so you dont damage something below or take out a telephone wire, many times I've been out to the tip to cut it off to roll the end over the other side of a wire.

 

Apart from those situations of course!

 

I actually enjoy crawling out to tricky tips now and again, as I think it is a true test of climbing skill.

 

I'm not very good at it mind. Which is probably why I've convinced myself that very light reductions are a waste of time!

 

Local TO down here spec'd a 5% reduction and thin on a LOMBARDY poplar a couple of years ago. God give me strength! Or the cash to by a MEWP.....

[Red.Squirrel]

My thanks to John, tried out the technique you mentioned and loved it. Gonna use that all the time from now on whenever possible, only problem was when I was descending and met up with the loop lol.

 

I don't think this thread has gone daft at all, simply evolved .

[Pete Mctree]

My thanks to John, tried out the technique you mentioned and loved it. Gonna use that all the time from now on whenever possible, only problem was when I was descending and met up with the loop lol.

 

I don't think this thread has gone daft at all, simply evolved .

 

Using both ends of the line has it's negatives too. Firstly the length of line required to hit the ground in an emergency would be long (over 4 times the height of the tree:ohmy:). It's not that you can't unclip one end of the line, but it would take time to reroute it.

Secondly the "loop" it forms in the middle of the line has to be guarded, as if a branch or limb were to catch it, it will hurt.

 

Personally I prefer a 2nd rope if the tree's form dictates it's use, non of the above disadvantages. However it is well worth learning.

[Stephen Blair]

Using both ends of the line has it's negatives too. Firstly the length of line required to hit the ground in an emergency would be long (over 4 times the height of the tree:ohmy:). It's not that you can't unclip one end of the line, but it would take time to reroute it.

Secondly the "loop" it forms in the middle of the line has to be guarded, as if a branch or limb were to catch it, it will hurt.

 

Personally I prefer a 2nd rope if the tree's form dictates it's use, non of the above disadvantages. However it is well worth learning.

 

2 ropes are excellent on tall leggy stuff with not much of a centre, positioning is so much easier, i love the floating about feeling. managing your ropes well is a must.

[Red.Squirrel]

I did experience the lack of rope when descending but found unclipping was no hassle at all and as I tend to manage the ropes as I go along re-routing was not an issue. In an emergency though that extra 20 seconds could be a lot. Swings and roundabouts though, this one works for me.

 

 

Despite it's disadvantages I found more confidence with this system and much prefer it. I also would use 2 ropes but seeing as I've just started I can only afford the 1 . If anyone can suggest any other methods that would be great but I guess that is going a bit more off topic.

[treewizard]

i weight 8.5 - 9 stone and often worry that im anchoring on something to small but going on what you guys are saying i think im alright.

what would you guys sujest on thickness just to get your points of view

[Rod]

I also would use 2 ropes but seeing as I've just started I can only afford the 1 . If anyone can suggest any other methods that would be great but I guess that is going a bit more off topic.

 

you could use a long split tail 4 or 5 meter or maybe you could buy a short rope like a 10 meter, it would be less cost than a whole rope, but two ropes will still be better

[SJH]

I'm really liking this tread, some great info and tips here:001_smile:

[Dean Lofthouse]

or maybe you could buy a short rope like a 10 meter, it would be less cost than a whole rope,

 

I'd just wait until you nick your main climbing line at the halfway point, turn it into a long split tail rather than chuck it.

 

I used to do it quite often but I'm alright nooowww

[Rod]

ive got one of them. lucky for me the groundsman who cut it paid for the new one. bonus!!