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The training industry is exactly that a money making enterprise, a bit like christmas and its everywhere. We do need regulating and teaching safe practice, but why does it take 3 days to teach 3 hours worth of training? costing a fortune in time and money.

 

Rant over until someone ignites me again.

 

Thats exactly my thoughts on it, the basic chainsaw course from memory has gone from 3 days if you had some knowledge and 5 days if you were a beginner to 5 days compulsory plus another day to do NPTC asessment, an estate woodsman I knew told me when tickets first came in the asessor came to see them on the estate, asked him to fetch his smallest saw the woodsman came back with one with a 36" bar on, told the instructor they didnt run anything smaller as mostly they were felling mature trees, apparently the instructor said fair enough lets go to the pub and do the paper work, now thats a common sense approach :thumbup:

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Nptc certs do not make you qualified that's for sure,like someone said above a box ticking exercise.I was studying on the job back in NZ unfortunately came across to Britian just before i could finish,sure ill be able to sort it when i get back.I think it's the best way ive seen to learn.I have a basic sound knowledge,enough to keep customers and employers/contractors happy,don't hurt my self or others,like to keep up with latest practices and methods take pride in my work,can't really ask more then that.

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I'm not qualified to use the Hoover the washing machine or the dishwasher !

 

Yeh, but you live in a pig sty, stink to high heaven and no-one will accept a cup of tea at your place...:001_tt2:

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I have cs30 31 but as has been said it is no substitute for experience. There are .ads on my course hoping to do their cs tickets who are barely capable of starting the damned things let alone using them lol

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I failed my advanced city and guilds in carpentry & joinery, but it has not stopped me from earning a decent wage, and working on some very tricky jobs, and also jobs where i have felt privileged to work on projects of prestige. In my mind experience beats qualifications every time.

 

I shouldn't worry. I got mine but still didn't open many doors. They all wanted cscs cards.

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I have cs30 31 but as has been said it is no substitute for experience. There are .ads on my course hoping to do their cs tickets who are barely capable of starting the damned things let alone using them lol

 

Yep seen that, one guy I worked for spent two hours trying to get his saw going on a job, when I went to see what was up he had the saw in bits, I said you did put fuel in didnt you, his answer was "urmmmmmm....:blushing:" also taught him how to drive his landrover off road after sitting quietly in the passenger seat while he made umpteen attempts at a not very steep incline with a trailer on :001_cool::laugh1:

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Ive been in business 23yrs - I did my RFS cert Arb and passed the written with credit - I didnt take any NPTC certs as I was too busy and didnt need them - I didnt know how important they were going to be in the future.

Ive since got the knapsack spraying one ,cs 30/31 ua 1 and 2.1 currently doing ua 5

And yes I can do it all, well. Rigging, felling large trees etc

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