Have you ever seen anyone climb with just ONE rope???

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

shhhhh we dont speak of such things... its the rules you know!

 

 

and ive seen/done worse!

[Stubby]

Rope-a-dope ..... Mohamed Ali .

[Joe Newton]

In answer to the OP, everyone I have ever worked with.

 

I think he means main line only, no lanyard. You've never worked with anyone who uses a lanyard?

 

I'm not exactly straight as a ruler when it comes to safety (two points of contact when cutting etc) but where's the advantage to not carrying a lanyard?

[Le Sanglier]

I think he means main line only, no lanyard. You've never worked with anyone who uses a lanyard?

 

I'm not exactly straight as a ruler when it comes to safety (two points of contact when cutting etc) but where's the advantage to not carrying a lanyard?

 

Ok going back 10 to 15 yrs most climbed with one line, using the other end if needed.

I use a flip line as a second line, but only started doing that 5 odd years ago,

love it! especially as I am 50 this year.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Ok going back 10 to 15 yrs most climbed with one line, using the other end if needed.

I use a flip line as a second line, but only started doing that 5 odd years ago,

love it! especially as I am 50 this year.

 

I have to confess only been using the side lanyard for about the same time, us old dogs take some convincing that new tricks are worth the wieght!

 

I do love my side strop now, dead handy, especialy with the art positioner:thumbup1:

[WorcsWuss]

I used to. It was a definite improvement over the way I started, which was ladder to the first fork and no rope at all!

I just have a lanyard obsession now though..,.,

[Yorkshireman]

must be an auld git thing

 

When I climb , which admittedly now is quite a rarity

usually the fricking worst jobs

but anyway

with a 45mt & 2 friction cords , both being of different colour using 2 beeners again different

to ensure I know which end is which & ensure I know which system has my anchor point

 

too many ropes in the tree need redirecting & moving especially in dismantles & a pain in the arse in tight grown trees

 

keep it simple and keep it safe

 

too many get SHINEY toy syndrome that can either get left on the job coz there’s way too much gear in the kit to start with or aren’t used effectively.

 

When i Started my kit included

 

1 rope 2 x friction cords 1 harness a dozen karabs set of spikes , a section of three strand with a spliced eye in it to use as a toping strop for false crotch , whipped around and timber hitched onto the stem , a good lowering rope and a tool strop /bungee

 

5 quids worth of fuel in the combi can and your off I dismantled countless trees that way

 

IF i was working above 45mtr off the deck then it wasn’t for long ! as you can easy top out 5 meter sections once tied off , so decent to the ground in an emergency would always be achieved If anything went pear shaped..

 

I swear we try and reinvent something that in essence is so very very simple

and the more we complicate things the more dangerous it gets in my book

I would always ALWAYS trust my knots and my choice of anchor,

 

I dont as easily trust an assembly of metal pieces, that is made in some far off factory by someone I have never met , building things I have no input into or need for

 

I remember going to Capel a number of years back and was stood in the tree worker stand chatting to the Guys , when I turned away a fresh faced young man [ who was studing Arb at the college ] thrust a shiny purple metal thing at me and with GLEE said look what I have bought >>>......

I looked at him briefly ,his face altered and in a much lower voice he said WHAT DOES IT DO ?????????

I explained what a hand ascender was all about and then shook my head and left him to shop on ,,,, without question the most bizarre ARB shopping experience I have ever witnessed

 

rgds an old git:001_cool:

Edited February 13, 2013 by Yorkshireman

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

must be an auld git thing

 

When I climb , which admittedly now is quite a rarity

usually the fricking worst jobs

but anyway

with a 45mt & 2 friction cords , both being of different colour using 2 beeners again different

to ensure I know which end is which & ensure I know which system has my anchor point

 

too many ropes in the tree need redirecting & moving especially in dismantles & a pain in the arse in tight grown trees

 

keep it simple and keep it safe

 

too many get SHINEY toy syndrome that can either get left on the job coz there’s way too much gear in the kit to start with or aren’t used effectively.

 

When i Started my kit included

 

1 rope 2 x friction cords 1 harness a dozen karabs set of spikes , a section of three strand with a spliced eye in it to use as a toping strop for false crotch , whipped around and timber hitched onto the stem , a good lowering rope and a tool strop /bungee

 

5 quids worth of fuel in the combi can and your off I dismantled countless trees that way

 

IF i was working above 45mtr off the deck then it wasn’t for long ! as you can easy top out 5 meter sections once tied off , so decent to the ground in an emergency would always be achieved If anything went pear shaped..

 

I swear we try and reinvent something that in essence is so very very simple

and the more we complicate things the more dangerous it gets in my book

I would always ALWAYS trust my knots and my choice of anchor,

 

I dont as easily trust an assembly of metal pieces, that is made in some far off factory by someone I have never met , building things I have no input into or need for

 

I remember going to Capel a number of years back and was stood in the tree worker stand chatting to the Guys , when I turned away a fresh faced young man [ who was studing Arb at the college ] thrust a shiny purple metal thing at me and with GLEE said look what I have bought >>>......

I looked at him briefly ,his face altered and in a much lower voice he said WHAT DOES IT DO ?????????

I explained what a hand ascender was all about and then shook my head and left him to shop on ,,,, without question the most bizarre ARB shopping experience I have ever witnessed

 

rgds an old git:001_cool:

 

lmao, sounds like an all too often repeated thing! I am stunned at the level some of these gear junkies take it to. would love to take a gang of young guns back to the late 80's 90's show em a multiplate rope without a friction hitch a metal 20t and see how they get on oldschool fashion!

[daveindales]

Back in the 90's I used to climb, as taught, just using both ends of the climbing rope. Flipping tough way to go about it I reckon.

 

I still climb like that now, but with addition of flipline. Don't know any other way. Probably too old to change now

[Yorkshireman]

lmao, sounds like an all too often repeated thing! I am stunned at the level some of these gear junkies take it to. would love to take a gang of young guns back to the late 80's 90's show em a multiplate rope without a friction hitch a metal 20t and see how they get on oldschool fashion!

 

 

Lmao Tony

 

maybe coz I'm in my mid fourties now , and maybe its because I dont hold a massive amount of classroom time that would have bombarded my single brain cell anyway ,

 

BUT in my simple mind it seems to me things now ,, are wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy........ too complicated

 

WTf would some of these guys do without all their gadgets & gizmos

 

Iain

Edited February 13, 2013 by Yorkshireman