Advice re conservation order area

[cousin jack]

I have a customer, who wants to fell four old fruit trees, damson/apple, in his large garden, he will use the resulting timber for his own firewood use. Max height of trees 18ft, but he is within a conservation order area, could anyone advise on procedure about obtaining permission etc. Thanks CJ

[detritus21]

Needs a notification going to the council as with any other trees over a certain dbh in a conservation area.

[hazzygawa]

Go to their local council web site and print or fill out a on line a conservation area/tpo form.

[treequip]

Go to their local council web site and print or fill out a on line a conservation area/tpo form.

 

Nope, no need to use the forms for a "211" notification. A lot of LA's like punters to use the forms which gives their authority gravitas it doesn’t have

 

All you need to do is put your intentions on paper and make it clear which trees you intend to work on and what you intend to do

 

For example

 

211 Notification

 

Date

Site Address

 

Please find attached a schedule of works and map the above named property

Schedule

 

T1 Species Fell to ground

 

Add a sketch map to aid locating the trees and bobs your uncle.

[Gary Prentice]

As tree quip said, but its just as easy to use the downloaded form. There is a section that differentiates between Tpo's and CA,s. the lpa are not obliged to acknowledge receipt, so keep a note of the date of notification. If a Tpo isn't served within six weeks, fell them. By filling in the official application form, as a 211 notice, should the trees be already TPO'd the authority deem it as an application. Again they are not legally obliged to acknowledge receipt. We email everything and get a read receipt as its surprising how many applications are mislaid.

[cousin jack]

Ok, gents thank you very much.

[likeitorlumpit]

As they are fruit trees surely you don't need any permission?

[18 stoner]

As they are fruit trees surely you don't need any permission?

 

Wrong.

 

They are not commercial. If in a garden they need same notification as any other tree, unless being used for commercial benefit.

 

 

Edit; This also applies even for "fruit pruning" if the trees are above the required girth. Contrary to belief.

 

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[geoff]

As they are fruit trees surely you don't need any permission?

 

Twas my first thought too,but not 100% sure,so my ear is cocked.

[Gary Prentice]

Wrong.

 

They are not commercial. If in a garden they need same notification as any other tree, unless being used for commercial benefit.

 

 

Edit; This also applies even for "fruit pruning" if the trees are above the required girth. Contrary to belief.

 

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Out of interest, have you any references for this? Reading Mynors, with regard to TPO's, the 1999 Model Order relating to fruit trees. (2010 draft has identical wording)

 

Consent is not required for c)"the pruning, in accordance with good horticultural practice, of any tree cultivated for the production of fruit."

 

For felling it is clear that the exemption is only with regard to commercial production, whereas the pruning exemption does not make the distinction.

 

I can't find any clarification with regard to CA's, but would find it surprising that the regulations would be stricter, as it were.