a nice cut for hung trees

[RobArb]

And so should we share these "all manner of different cuts" on video, or keep them to ourselves, so as not to "confuse" the newbies?

 

ps... next time you're cutting any limb over 15", put a clock on the cut... that's one of the things I like about video, is the ability to get an accurate time on any particular task..

 

Does it matter, on the clock? As long as the limb comes off safely and securely, what's the difference between 10 seconds and 20 second!

 

 

PS, for the pedants amongst us, it's 10 seconds:001_tt2:

 

 

 

 

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[dadio]

Does it matter, on the clock? As long as the limb comes off safely and securely, what's the difference between 10 seconds and 20 second!

 

Tell that to all those pesky footlockers at climbing competitions..

[woodyguy]

Dadio, watched your video with interest. I don't have anywhere near the experience of you or many posting on here, so much to learn.

 

I suspect "your" cut is something that many of us would use at some point.

 

Two things though. I would only ever use it with small diameter stuff that if I messed up might break my leg but wouldn't kill me.

 

Secondly, what I find really irresponsible is that in your video and in subsequent postings you maintain that there is no or little risk. This is clearly a very risky cut used with any tree but particularly one of that size. Yes you got it down quickly but I certainly wouldn't be happy taking that risk. A pinched saw is a real posibility and would be quite hard to remedy. The fact that you have survived so far is partly skill but also a degree of good luck. I prefer to stay safe. So by all means post these videos but put a health warning on them to say that they are unsafe.

[RobArb]

Tell that to all those pesky footlockers at climbing competitions..

 

Now you're just clutching at straws trying to compare the use of a saw to footlocking!

 

Give it up man:lol:

 

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[Marc Lewis]

I've not read the whole thread, just first couple of pages and these are the sorts of cuts that many of us would do in the woods quite often should we have a hung up tree. This technique should never be used by a newbie or indeed somebody with little experience. Dadio however is very experienced and will know all the possible outcomes on making these cuts and therefore will be prepared should 'this or that' happen and be ready to take course of action. I would suggest that this is not good forestry practice and should only be carried out by an experienced chainsaw operator at their own risk and certainly not carried out by somebody inexperienced following this thread. Perhaps not titled 'a nice cut for hung up trees'. Sorry to waffle, just my opinion.

[dadio]

Does it matter, on the clock? what's the difference between 10 seconds and 20 second!

 

In footlocking the difference is just an average good climber vs a world record holder.. When someone breaks 10 seconds, he'll make history...

 

I used to always wonder how my climbing teacher could be so fast... he didn't really seem to be doing anything extraordinary, yet he'd get monster trees on the ground or pruned amazingly quickly... He had honed every aspect of climbing, rigging and cutting, to eliminate any wasted time. Every part of his game was done with mastery, not rushing, but the kind of fast that comes from smooth and methodical fluidity. The groundlmen didn't wait for him, he waited for them.

 

Though I could never hope to match his athleticism and climbing skills, I did take the lesson to heart and learned to apply it to the one area where I could, cutting.....

 

So I worked for years at learning to handle the saw with maximum efficiency, eliminating any wasted movement or time. Polishing the skills on the ground, so I could trust my life with them when used aloft. And it paid off... I suppose a lot of that has to do with topography.. I work in a market where there is often room to drop a tree in a tight drop zone if you have the skill and confidence. Most around here don't, so its a competitive advantage... that's my bread and butter.

 

Back to the point... its amazing to me how arborists spend so much time and $ improving their climbing techniques, yet so little time focusing on saw handling.. Saw handling is a big part of the game, and learning to shave seconds off every cut really adds up.. And more importantly, good cutting skills often preclude the need to climb and rig, taking the entire crew out of potentially dangerous situations.

 

That said, the next time any of you are making a cut on a horizontal limb over 20" diameter, put a clock on it and let us know... 23 seconds is the unofficial world record... LOL

[Rich Rule]

So for the record what cut do you want your desciples to try..?

 

Personally I don't reckon you would be me. I am a Jedi and have you seen the speed a lightsaber cuts?

[twistedhicap]

im going to start a cult for anyone who wants to follow Dildos video tutorials ?

[mistahbenn]

Rofl!!

[dadio]

So for the record what cut do you want your desciples to try..?

 

Personally I don't reckon you would be me. I am a Jedi and have you seen the speed a lightsaber cuts?

 

Ain't got no disciples... people think I'm crazy... they make fun of me.... call me names and laugh at me...

so let them figure it out for themselves...

 

Camera doesn't lie though... let's see what you got... any takers?