Using lag hooks when blocking down

[Rowden the cowboy]

I tried to make sense of paolo bavaresco's extreme rigging i.e. using lag hooks to rig chogs down from the stem. Has any one here actually used them and was it more efficient than snatching overall? its just there's something about going up the stem with a cordless drill that sounds like a real arse ache. I would appreciate any comments from anyone who's used this technique. Cheers

[skyhuck]

Here you go!!!!!

 

http://arbtalk.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=2531&highlight=removal

[Tom D]

Just skimmed over that thread again, I think any method can be employed if an experienced professional judges that under the circumstances it is the safest way, regardless of any officialdom.

 

BTW Reg did you hear anything back? Post #40:

 

 

"Andy, the lags weren’t load rated but they were welded and tested to my satisfaction on the actual tree in question. I understand enough about mild steel to know that those 4 lags could have probably picked up that entire trunk if it were possible to secure them adequately in the wood, which is the real issue. Different timbers, holding qualities, condition, alignment etc, etc….

 

I made a judgment-call based on the risks involved. I’m certainly not going to use an approved method that presents more risks or is perhaps just not feasible at all, just because it is approved or recommended by the company/s that advise the HSE….Id be more than willing to go to court in the worst case scenario. As far as I can see, nothing is actually recommended for when a situation like this presents itself (lowering rings). Or perhaps it is simply to flatten everything underneath and fix it all up afterwards. Whatever, it just doesn’t ever seem to get a mention.

 

I actually sent the video link to company xxxx who I gather advise the HSE, to show them how the situation was dealt with. I’ve yet to receive a reply but it sometimes takes time as the guy often works away or is tied up with other stuff.

 

I said in the initial post that it’s not a technique that I’m promoting or encouraging, only that I judged it the safest option on this occasion. Clearly there’s plenty of scope for fine tuning and establishing boundaries etc. Although under the right circumstances it clearly works, perhaps there’s too many variables for someone to risk putting their name to. I’ll let you know if I hear anything. Thanks"

[arnoldbuchsassinger]

I think Paolo did not use them in the end , you have no way of knowing what they are anchoring into. Take another pulley up the tree in stead of a electric driver, reduce the loading in the system.

[Stephen Blair]

dumpy bag full of sawdust and brash.

bombs away!!!!!!!

[skyhuck]

I just stick the Palfinger up, strop it on, away you go!!

[scotspine1]

I tried to make sense of paolo bavaresco's extreme rigging i.e. using lag hooks to rig chogs down from the stem. Has any one here actually used them and was it more efficient than snatching overall? its just there's something about going up the stem with a cordless drill that sounds like a real arse ache. I would appreciate any comments from anyone who's used this technique. Cheers

 

Reg Coates who's a member here has used the technique and made an excellent video of it in action. As for a cordless drill up the tree, its not a problem, having cabled 100s of trees using a petrol drill you get used to it very quickly.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Edited January 19, 2009 by scotspine1