Charala Videos

[scotspine1]

How to ID it -

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sI7hgFZ-4g&feature=related]How to identify Chalara ash dieback in the field - YouTube[/ame]

 

a brief history

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xf8fll_DWOM]Chalara fraxinea (Chalara Ash die-back) - A brief history - YouTube[/ame]

 

At around 3.04 in this vid this guy has some sensible thoughts on the problem -

 

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaYPjQE3Wtw&feature=related]The Ash Dieback Problem - YouTube[/ame]

[Czlowiek Drzewo]

Good find.

[David Humphries]

Well presented and clear information,

good post for the membership Mr Pine

 

 

I tend to agree with Mr Eichhorns view that we look too deeply (at times) at the fluctuating change in species constancy.

 

Of course this is very real and very negative situation for species specific biodiversity, but something/or some species will come along to fill the hole, probably much like how Homo sapiens eventually filled the gap of H habilis, H ergastor, H erectus & H neanderthalensis.

 

Isn't this where Darwin comes in?

 

 

 

 

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[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Well presented and clear information,

good post for the membership Mr Pine

 

 

I tend to agree with Mr Eichhorns view that we look too deeply (at times) at the fluctuating change in species constancy.

 

Of course this is very real and very negative situation for species specific biodiversity, but something/or some species will come along to fill the hole, probably much like how Homo sapiens eventually filled the gap of H habilis, H ergastor, H erectus & H neanderthalensis.

 

Isn't this where Darwin comes in?

 

 

 

 

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Well in the case of the above species may well be so, as Darwins view of evolutionary process was very anthropocentric, and as man did indeed see off the others of his kind no doubt good reason to see the logic of the theory of evolution by natural selection.

 

However many other species have many variants even within the same ecosystems, thats the more inclusional evolutionary theory, void filling, life cant stand a vacuum, and allows many of the same species to co exist.

 

I like your train of thought though regarding the permanence of systems, wide scale extinctions have occurred throughout the earths history, life itself as opposed to individual organisms it seems is most adapted to change and pioneering voids and may well be far less fragile than our limited human minds can comprehend.

[Crazy Cutter]

Did you read Oliver Rackham in the Mail yesterday?

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

That last vid has a lot of truth, but also a lot of playing down.

 

being rather sceptical I expect to see more of the same over the coming months!

 

As I understand it 75 percent losses is conservative for Chalara, Denmark lost 95 % I shall locate the facts on that and return

[Treemoose]

Good vids feel like I'll be checking every ash I go past from now on

[Danavan]

:thumbup:Nice vid's.

 

Good to gain info like this & look for more on the subject. Hopefully We won't get a knee jerk reaction to this spread & fell everything in site before we gain a better understanding for its spread.

 

As was said in one of the vid's this is infecting young stock as well as older but the older trees will take a while longer to die completely. I wonder how many trees will develop some type of resistance to this in the future & seed stock that is let to run its course in un touched natural areas may become the future pockets of ash.

 

As also pointed out in the video the time scale on which trees & we exist is vastly different & hard for us to comprehend.

 

Am I right in understanding that alot of the ash in Denmark has been felled premature to full infection to salvage some timber value?

 

If this is hear to stay & we are in for the same treatment as Denmark, would the bio diversity from older dying ash in low target areas not be worth just letting it run it's course & maybe gaining some spp specific colonization that we may not see otherwise?

 

Just thoughts going around my head. Will keep reading & listening for more info.

[Andy Collins]

Thanks Piney very useful,

[Mark Bolam]

Apart from your spelling, which isn't.