what could my ND in forestry and arb' lead to?

[Big dog]

i quite agree with what you say, sometimes the romantic notion of the job outweighs the career prospects. How many of these guys are thinking fifteen/ twenty years down the line when climbing becomes a little too hard and what section of the industry they will move into next. I still blame the colleges for pulling these guys in. It is becoming inevitable that there will be a "base layer" workforce of newly qualified "arborists" significantly diluted by those who A) have no potential, and B) have no long term future, who are making the commited few extremely hard to sift out. Obviously they all are qualified and full of enthusiasm to start with.

[jimmylad]

hello, thanks for the comments so far, really are useful and helpful. its good to get experianced people's opinions.

i'm due to start the course in sept' coming. during the course, i'll be able to get a 6month work experiance placement, so i'm hoping that will help me. also i'm under no illusions that it will easy. i've left college till i was (am)25 so that i can get all my travelling and such out of the way so i can go to college and study my a*se off. i'm in this for the long term and will be looking for nothing but the highest grade i can achive.

also with studying forestry and arb' i'm hoping that wioll broaden my career prospects, than if i was doing one or the other. either way i know its going to be a bumpy ride, but with out being to cheese, you reap what you sew. and the idea that i could take me places such as nz, auz and america is incentive enougth to do the best i can.

 

james

[Ooops..]

What college are you at? im doing my second year at askham bryan in york. my advice would be to not worry bout work at the mo, concentrate on your course also, if youve never done it before, dont let climbing freak you out. half the people on my course dropped ou as soon as they realised how intence climbing is. i cacked myself at first but stuck at it, and now i love it!!

hope all goes well and you enjoy it!

something will crop up job-wise

.....well it better do or im screwed when july comes along!

[arnoldbuchsassinger]

If you are ABC where r u based. Anyway, main thread I did my ND in forestry and Arb, it gives you a much greater qualification than just holding tickets to use a chainsaw, you are qualified in Pest and Disease, Plant health care(PHC) tree surveying and reporting. You will probably do pesticide stuff PA 1 & 6, i read loads of threads about the best way of doing this and doing that, a lot of the people have learnt by just doing it on the job, not understanding why or how, all the rigging stuff you will learn, Risk assessing, All the HSE regulations. I can promise you, you will be in a greater position than people who have not got the qualification. Oh and jobs, New Zealand, Spain Italy Germany, Sweden, Canada, the States loads of oppotunities and having an ND will make getting a job overseas a lot easier. Anyone who says waste of time is either jealous, or plain grumpy. I get a lot of work through being able to quote science and fact, not guessing. ND and loads of work experience and you will go far, as for change in Arb, just see what is happeing in the states and they are 5 years ahead of us

[sylvestris stew]

What College are you going to?

 

The secret of doing well in any of the rural sectors, is to have a well grounded practical knowledge as well as a formal qualification.

 

As far as Arb or Forestry , it depends on where you are and what your interests are, you can cross over from one to another , you can also take it on to a bsc, if you are thinking of working abroad will serve you well.

 

I'm in the Highlands and involved and studied Forestry, my brother[who's on this site all the time] is in the central belt and doing arb work.

 

Arbiroculture is the cultivation and management of trees within the landscape. This includes the study of how trees grow and respond to cultural practices and the environment, as well as application of cultural techniques such as selection, planting, care, surgery and removal.

 

The main focus of arboriculture is amenity trees; such trees are maintained primarily for landscape purposes for the benefit of human beings. Amenity trees are usually in gardens, parks or urban settings, and arboriculture involves aspects of plant health, pest and pathogen control, risk management, and aesthetic considerations. Trees offer cultural and natural heritage benefits beyond production of wood products; for this reason, arboriculture needs to be distinguished from forestry, which is the commercial production and use of timber and other forest products from plantations and forests.

 

Forestry is the art and science of managing forests, tree plantations, and related natural resources. Silviculture, a related science, involves the growing and tending of trees and forests. Modern forestry generally concerns itself with: assisting forests to provide timber as raw material for wood products; wildlife habitat; natural water quality management; recreation; landscape and community protection; employment; aesthetically appealing landscapes; biodiversity management; watershed management; erosion control; and a 'sink' for atmospheric carbon dioxide.

 

Basically the diference is that Arborists take trees down from the top in little bits using specialised kit.

Foresters take them down from the bottom in 1 cut with a dirty big machine

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[Big dog]

as for change in Arb, just see what is happeing in the states and they are 5 years ahead of us

 

Could you expand on this please, i found that to be an interesting notion.

[Yorkshireman]

if YOU DONT KNOW it beats me why you are doing the course in the first place

 

sorry but thats my comment !! & I agree with ED .......

 

looking through rosy glasses are fine but this is a niche market with loads of asperational motivators tonnes of newbies being packed into a small industry. I know of two companies that have folded this month alone

 

All that said I commend anyone you aspires to DO more , to learn more ,or otherwise to advance

 

I however think, that to blindly take a step into the dark is not well advised

[treequip]

What College are you going to?

 

Arbiroculture is the cultivation and management of trees within the landscape. This includes the study of how trees grow and respond to cultural practices and the environment, as well as application of cultural techniques such as selection, planting, care, surgery and removal.

 

What a delightful Freudian slip

 

For Arbiroculture see tree officer:ohmy: .....That should put the cat amongst the pigeons

 

Andy

[Big dog]

And they said that this was the most miserable day of the year......

[sylvestris stew]

"arbiroculture"

 

College doesn't learn you to spell :confused1: