Beginners guide to rigging.......

[gibbon]

Many ways to skin this cat so just go with how you see it Adam - plenty people listening.

 

I'm listening too

[Andy Collins]

This has the potential to be a brilliant thread Adam, keep up the good work . Im sure we'd all agree not to derail the thread too much, Adam is putting a lot of time and thought into this. Of course valuable input has its place as well. Cheers

[dexta]

great thread, i'am sure a lot of people are interested, keep up the good work

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Adam, keep it up mate, and remember there is no guidelines for making a great thread, no rule book as such, its yours, and if anyone thinks they can do it better, they should go and do it, rather than tell others how to do it!

 

Rigging is an artform, especially on trees that have decays or non perfect form, lots of guys and girls too will gain a lot from it im sure.

 

good thread fella.

[matt.akers]

Great thread fella, if you don't like it don't read it. But the rest of us are very much interested, keep going mate.

[testcricket01]

good thread keep it up. my say on rigging is as said not alot to do with equipment but how its used. you need a climber in the know to set the sling/slings in the right place to avoid targets/ balance or even tip or butt tieing to make it easier to man handle once the ground crew can reach it.

also good climbers will have a plan if they leave a little stub at the top to give it that bit extra swing this way into the garden etc etc need to look at the tree see what you can use to aid the dismantle for all the team.

 

also need good groundsmen to not shockload/ let things run without a good groundsmen rigging can go all to pop no matter how good everything else is.

 

 

my main tip for rigging is as in the pictures NO STUBS that should be rule number 1 they make everything such a chore.

[WorcsWuss]

Good thread Adam.

I enjoy rigging, it makes a dismantling job far more interesting than just cutting & chucking.

I don't go big though, I like to stick to what I know. I have a laminated chart I made of green weights for common species & diameters I deal with which lives in the box so I can double check my lengths before I get too carried away.

If I'm dropping something which will swing I'll usually negative rig it and get my groundie to let it run and slow it in a controlled way, I'm terrified of ending up like some of the guys on youtube who rig above their head and then for whatever reason the rope doesn't run and they end up getting battered by a swinging butt.... several times....

Being tuned into my groundie is the most important thing for me, he needs to know what I'm doing, what I want him to do and I need to have the confidence he's going to control the drop in the way I expect him to and in the way I have made the cut.

Kit wise I use a small ISC cast pulley, 16mm Marlow onto the tree, 12mm Marlow lowering rope, a Buckingham ali portawrap and various strops & sewn loops. I also have a dirt cheap poly which I use as a tag line or fixed line to swing things round.... or for tying the groundie to the back of the truck if he doesn't let something run and I get pinged off....

 

I'll follow this thread with interest, I don't do a lot of rigging but I appreciate the art of it, particularly the less is more approach, I find some of the fancy multiple rope & hardware systems used to drop HUGE pieces a bit convoluted and pointless [to my inexperienced eye I must add], but purely out of curiosity I'm interested to see what does get dropped with the same kit I use by more creative riggers than I....

[Adam Bourne]

Thanks for all the positive feed back guys:thumbup1: much appreciated.

 

James nice one for your input mate good start....

 

simon i dare say you are more experienced than you make out! but hopefully we can enlighten your rigging vocabulary...

 

i'm really running in and out of things tonight so might not get a chance to extend the threat but my next post will run back to the bigging of my talk on basic rigging and choosing the right rope for the job.

i will add as many photos as i can with detailed descriptions of what is involved in natural crotching, taking loads and how to use the tree to your advantage. also along the way we will talk through useful knots and hitches using the arbtalk knot guide,

also i will make a few videos of the above techniques just to demonstrate video wise everything in action.

 

once i get the informative posts up and running it would be much appreciated for those that have other advice on the pending subjects to discuss other alternatives general info and anything i have missed out....this will make the thread what i intended to be covering everything.

 

i'm happy with the way its going so far....

Edited June 6, 2012 by Adam Bourne

[silky fox]

[andrew t]

Great thread I think this is what is needed in the industry there is a lot of very hard workers in the tree game but i think we all suffer a little from being a little lazy when it comes to education I am talking about my self also here:blushing: .The way i see it is arbtalk gives us the chance to give our brains a workout and for people like tony c and david h and other people on here we get this for nothing .Big thankyou to steve for making it all happen