Beginners guide to rigging.......

[Mark Bolam]

People seem to do it all the time though Adam, then crash the few last big lumps onto the lawn!

 

 

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[Mountain man]

That's what I'm saying joe, you wouldn't rig down a spar unless you totally needed to! It's not about saving time.

 

Agreed, it's the least enjoyable thing I do in tree work.

If it's a lawn you might as well tell the client there's going to be some holes.

Couple of barrows of topsoil and some seed, sorts it out.

Over decking, greenhouses etc, different story of course.

[Joe Newton]

Agreed, it's the least enjoyable thing I do in tree work.

If it's a lawn you might as well tell the client there's going to be some holes.

Couple of barrows of topsoil and some seed, sorts it out.

Over decking, greenhouses etc, different story of course.

 

 

Over greenhouses I just tell the client there's going to be some holes

[Joe Newton]

That's what I'm saying joe, you wouldn't rig down a spar unless you totally needed to! It's not about saving time.

 

 

Cool, were on the same page.

 

I see some people that seem to do it as a matter of course!

[Rich Rule]

I don't mind negative rigging. I will do it more often than chogging.

[MattyF]

I don't mind negative rigging. I will do it more often than chogging.

 

 

Same as rich, I'd rather do 5 big bits than 30 small ones... I'd rather just fell the stem altogether !

[Joe Newton]

I don't mind negative rigging. I will do it more often than chogging.

 

 

 

Same as rich, I'd rather do 5 big bits than 30 small ones... I'd rather just fell the stem altogether !

 

 

Here we go, I was hoping if hear from the other camp.

 

I guess it depends what your work is and what you're good at.

 

As a contract climber, Rich, I'm assuming that your job is to get your tree on the deck in a day. If the company you're subbing to has to go back another day to ring up the timber it's not the end of the world I guess.

 

As an employed climber, sometimes with one or two lads on the deck, I can keep them both busy shifting manageable chogs out the back garden. Whereas if I blocked it down on a pulley, id be spending more time setting up rigging, and they'd be swamped trying to lower timber, undo the rope, ring it up, and get it out, whilst I was waiting to snatch another lump.

 

I'll use neg rigging when it's appropriate, but I favour chogging when the option is there.

[MattyF]

Depends how it's done though joe. If your tag lining it out of the dz like in regs video you only need one guy on the lowering rope the other guy can be cutting it up on sheets so it makes clearing up a breeze and its a lot easier using a big saw on the ground than spikes , I have no bother in setting and moving a block quickly enough not to waste time and once it's on the deck to muck in and help move it, depends on the site, tree or climber.

[mistahbenn]

I don't get that joe. 2 guys on the deck getting swamped when you are rigging down timber? They must be real slow workers! Or you must be doing some huge bits? just move the piece out of the way ready for the next bit, easy.

For me, a lot of the jobs are tight and will need roping off. Whenever I can get away with chogging, I will. Certainly quicker. Designate a spot and hit it every time. Fill the hole with stump chips.

[Adam Bourne]

 

As an employed climber, sometimes with one or two lads on the deck, I can keep them both busy shifting manageable chogs out the back garden. Whereas if I blocked it down on a pulley, id be spending more time setting up rigging, and they'd be swamped trying to lower timber, undo the rope, ring it up, and get it out, whilst I was waiting to snatch another lump.

 

 

 

 

Joe,

 

Surely by the time they've sent the rope back up to you and you've set the rigging line back up and ready to go 2 guys have cut up and or moved the last piece out the way??

 

There's nothing wrong with negative rigging at all if it's done correctly, it's no more time consuming than chogging a stem down in manageable bits!.

If I was chogging down then the size of my timber would depend on the size of my drop zone. A bit like this video.

 

 

It's far more less time consuming and less time on the saw on spikes and the timber can be dealt with far my easier on the floor!

 

Rigging would be similar but I would expect the groundys to be cutting the piece up on the floor while I was setting the next piece up.

 

I will negative rig when needed not just where I see fit.