One reason I use Aspen

[geoff]

Is it? Is it not taxed at the same rate as petrol?

 

Yes mate,it is,but because its dearer in the first place this heavily increases the 'tax per gallon'.

[Steve Bullman]

re cost....Its not just the fact that it costs more to get out. You only need to stop for a second and consider the quantities, packaging, marketing and everything else inbetween. Does anybody honestly expect Aspen to be able to compete with a product that is being shipped to forecourts thousands of gallons at a time and used by virtually every family in the country.....doesn't take a businessman or anyone with half a decent head on their shoulders to work that much out! The tax issue probably pales into significance compared to those associated costs.

 

Bottom line for me is if your business can't sustain it...if you can't afford to add maybe few quid a day on your day rate then, or if you dont feel any advantages it may offer aren't in your interest, then stick with petrol!!

[Daniël Bos]

 

Would the kind people of Aspen be willing to share a similar cost breakdown?

[Bob Morris]

I found this report to be heavy going (for me anyway) but there are a couple of pages of tables comparing the exhaust emissions from alkylate fuels and 'normal' fuels. The report specifically mentions Aspen - the test was done in Sweden. (Hope it hasn't been posted before - I read the whole thread and didn't notice it)

 

In 2008 in the States the cost of producing alkylate was 15% greater than petrol. (Can't find the reference back)

 

http://publications.lib.chalmers.se/records/fulltext/local_72581.pdf

 

Cheers

Bob

[Daniël Bos]

Yes mate,it is,but because its dearer in the first place this heavily increases the 'tax per gallon'.

 

Nope, fuel duty is per litre.

VAT is per retail price.

[geoff]

Nope, fuel duty is per litre.

VAT is per retail price.

 

Yes it is per litre, but makes no odds,still the same percentage no matter what volume you use,but thanks for clearing that up.

[GardenKit]

Wow, what an evening on this thread!

 

And what a welcome for Eddie, it seemed a bit rough on him earlier on. He does not have the benefit of knowing the characters on here, and knowing which ones to ignore, so I hope it has not put him off.

 

Still, there was plenty of support for his product later in the evening so maybe we will see him again, lets hope so.

 

On the subject of price I think we have to just accept that Aspen is the price it is. Lets face it, if it could be cheaper then it would be, its a commercial world.

 

It really should not be compared in price to petrol for all the reasons stated by Steve, it is after all, a different product.

 

If logs were cut to uniform sizes and packed in 10kg sealed, printed boxes and shipped in from Sweden, I wonder what price they would be in comparison to those tipped loosely?

[felixthelogchopper]

There is no choice but to compare it to petrol as they are the two options for running our machines. I have used Aspen in the past in other people's saws but would not use it myself unless the price came down to something more realistic.

[GardenKit]

I guess then, that it is down to anyone interested in using it to do their own cost-benefit analysis.

 

Every potential user will place a different value on the various aspects of each fuel and make his own choice.

[alex_m]

How many of the people who are against buying aspen based on price, also buy the best/most expensive tools, clothes, ppe, climbing equipment etc etc?

 

 

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