Towing weights - question.

[Sam Thompson]

Right.

 

I understand my Landrover can tow 3.5t.

 

As in the trailer and load has a combined weight of 3.5.

 

 

Is that right? My old man reckons it is something to do with added weight of vehicle plus weight of trailer plus something...

 

Anyone clear this up? (Preferably with some legislation that backs me up )

 

 

 

Cheers,

 

Sam

[swinny]

My 3.5t iveco has a train weight of 6 ton

 

if it weights 2.5 ton, add a trailer at 500kg, then it can tow 3 ton

 

or 2.5 ton + 750kg trailer = 3.25 ton can tow 2.75 ton

 

Think thats ok

[SAM66S]

My 3.5t iveco has a train weight of 6 ton

 

if it weights 2.5 ton, add a trailer at 500kg, then it can tow 3 ton

 

or 2.5 ton + 750kg trailer = 3.25 ton can tow 2.75 ton

 

Think thats ok

 

You cant borrow the payload off of the iveco. The iveco is classed as 3.5 ton reguardless of payload so if the GTW is 6000kg & GVW is 3500kg the towing weight is 2500kg. If the trailer were to weigh 1000kg that leaves 1500kg payload on the trailer reguardless of whether the iveco is loaded or not

[swinny]

You cant borrow the payload off of the iveco. The iveco is classed as 3.5 ton reguardless of payload so if the GTW is 6000kg & GVW is 3500kg the towing weight is 2500kg. If the trailer were to weigh 1000kg that leaves 1500kg payload on the trailer reguardless of whether the iveco is loaded or not

 

ahhh, that clears that up then CHeers:thumbup:

[Johny Walker]

My 3.5t iveco has a train weight of 6 ton

 

if it weights 2.5 ton, add a trailer at 500kg, then it can tow 3 ton

 

or 2.5 ton + 750kg trailer = 3.25 ton can tow 2.75 ton

 

Think thats ok

 

you may find the train weight of a daily is 7t as that what ther plated up to. 3500 truck gross 3500 trailer gross + 7t

[treequip]

Right.

 

I understand my Landrover can tow 3.5t.

 

As in the trailer and load has a combined weight of 3.5.

 

 

Is that right? My old man reckons it is something to do with added weight of vehicle plus weight of trailer plus something...

 

Anyone clear this up? (Preferably with some legislation that backs me up )

 

 

 

Cheers,

 

Sam

 

The Land Rover (Defender and Discovery) can tow 3500kg.

 

Remember that this is what the vehicle can do, if you are on a post 97 licence you will need to do a trailer test to be “up to” what your vehicle can do.

[Pommie]

Plus if using for business use over 50 kms from base have a tacho fitted

[ROG.]

You cant borrow the payload off of the iveco. The iveco is classed as 3.5 ton reguardless of payload so if the GTW is 6000kg & GVW is 3500kg the towing weight is 2500kg. If the trailer were to weigh 1000kg that leaves 1500kg payload on the trailer reguardless of whether the iveco is loaded or not

Unless a maximum towing capacity has been listed then the GTW can be utilised as the driver sees fit as long as the vehicle GVW and the trailer MAM are not exceeded

 

Example:- no towing capacity listed

Vehicle

GVW = 3500

GTW = 6000

Trailer

MAM = 3500

 

When loaded these actual weights would be legal if weighed on a weighbridge

Vehicle 3500 + trailer 2500

Vehicle 3000 + trailer 3000

vehicle 2500 + trailer 3500 - not the best idea this one but legal

[ROG.]

A little more on GTW, GVW & MAM on a combination set up

 

As the GTW, GVW & MAM weight rules are exactly the same for LGVs as they are for B category vehicles then this might help to understand the using of the GTW

 

3 axle LGV rigid GVW 26000 and GTW of 44000

3 axle Drawbar trailer MAM 25000

 

The rigid weighs 10000 unladen

The Drawbar trailer weighs 8000 unladen

 

the driver has a 26000 load to distribute between the two but due to the nature of the load it means that only 10000 can go onto the vehicle

 

After loading the vehicle now weighs 20000 and the trailer weighs 24000

All perfectly legal but as the vehicle nows weighs less than the trailer more driving care is needed but that is not too much of a problem as the designers have accounted for that - if the designers thought it was unsafe they would impose a maximum towing capacity (actual weight) for the vehicle

 

That is why these days we find many 4x4s with a towing capacity well over the maximum vehicle GVW - they are designed for it

[Sam Thompson]

Thanks lads, ROG - I think that makes sense!