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[skyhuck]

Did you know that Churchill was declared bancrupt in 1938.

 

Forget britain in the second world war, we were just a thorn in germany's side, does anyone here know where the real battles were taking place? the one the media doesn't really want to talk about.

 

Yes the Russians won the war.

 

But that in no way reduces the phenomenal sacrifice made by so many great British people!!!

 

Lets not forget we had no need to fight, Hitler wanted us as allies, which make our stand all the more admirable.

[Mike Hill]

Yes the Russians won the war.

 

But that in no way reduces the phenomenal sacrifice made by so many great British people!!!

 

Lets not forget we had no need to fight, Hitler wanted us as allies, which make our stand all the more admirable.

 

Not really.

 

The invasion of Russia diverted masses of men and equipment away from the North African and West European theaters.

 

The threat of England being invaded was a rallying cry to the Colonies,imagine if they were American Colonies and had never committed untill three years into the War.

Edited December 17, 2011 by Mike Hill
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[firewood]

Did you know that Churchill was declared bancrupt in 1938.

 

Forget britain in the second world war, we were just a thorn in germany's side, does anyone here know where the real battles were taking place? the one the media doesn't really want to talk about.

 

The third reich was crushed on the eastern front. The ruskies were not far from the polish border by the time the western allies set foot in normandy. The key turning point battles in the east were stalingrad and kursk. Later in west the normandy landing, falaise pocket and ardennes forest were the key battles that broke the wermact on the western front.

 

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[gibbon]

We didn't win the war if you believe this guy.

 

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

 

Shame he died shortly after this

[Saw-sick Steve]

Let's not forget that there were many countries taking part in that air action against Germany, including members of the Eagle Squadron from USA and famous from 633 Squadron.

Sorry ELG, not to take anything away from the USA's participation in WW2, but there were only 7 US pilots involved in the Battle of Britain, and there was no 633 squadron. American pilots had to pretend they were Canadian to avoid loss of citizenship due to the strict neutrality laws in place at the time in the US.

Regards the contribution of the Soviets, the top ten battles (of WW2) in terms of men, machinery, participants, casualties - or any other way you choose to measure it - all occurred on the Ost-front.

Edited December 17, 2011 by Saw-sick Steve
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[luftwaffe]

The third reich was crushed on the eastern front. The ruskies were not far from the polish border by the time the western allies set foot in normandy. The key turning point battles in the east were stalingrad and kursk. Later in west the normandy landing, falaise pocket and ardennes forest were the key battles that broke the wermact on the western front.

 

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Spot on, The wehrmacht ran out of supplies/ fuel etc, that combined with the Russian winter weakened them to a point of no return, 80% of the German army perished in temperatures of -40, Hitler needed to take Russia for its commodities, eg fuel, wheat, iron ore to help them further the war effort, but they were stretched to thin over Russia's vast distances. yep Stalingrad was brutal on both sides.

 

That was Hitlers main reason for not invading Britain in 1940, he wanted to keep his troops fresh for russia, that was his long term goal.

[Taupotreeman]

Spot on, The wehrmacht ran out of supplies/ fuel etc, that combined with the Russian winter weakened them to a point of no return, 80% of the German army perished in temperatures of -40, Hitler needed to take Russia for its commodities, eg fuel, wheat, iron ore to help them further the war effort, but they were stretched to thin over Russia's vast distances. yep Stalingrad was brutal on both sides.

 

That was Hitlers main reason for not invading Britain in 1940, he wanted to keep his troops fresh for russia, that was his long term goal.

 

Yep and we want to thank our lucky stars that Hitler was too much of a boof head to listen to his senior commanders who tried to talk him out of opening up an Eastern front and pursuing the invasion of Britain. There are so many ifs and buts though. There could have been many different outcomes to the war depeding on certain decisions being made or not made.

[High Scale]

Yawn, I didn't realize this was going to be about WW2, as a speech it is brilliant, well written, almost like a prayer in the timing

[luftwaffe]

Yep and we want to thank our lucky stars that Hitler was too much of a boof head to listen to his senior commanders who tried to talk him out of opening up an Eastern front and pursuing the invasion of Britain. There are so many ifs and buts though. There could have been many different outcomes to the war depeding on certain decisions being made or not made.

 

Correct, Hitler made a better politician than a army commander, his commanders knew they would lose the war after Stalingrad, but he wouldn't listen to them. not taking Britain in 1940 came back to haunt him when the allies invaded Normandy in 1944.

 

But What a army the Wehrmacht were, totally fearless, with a iron will to overcome any obstacles that were in their way, probably the most lethal army ever assembled, but always out numbered on the battle field, As i said before fuel was at a premium, what with those giant Tiger tanks gusseling petrol at 2 MPH didn't help them either.

[easy-lift guy]

Sorry ELG, not to take anything away from the USA's participation in WW2, but there were only 7 US pilots involved in the Battle of Britain, and there was no 633 squadron. American pilots had to pretend they were Canadian to avoid loss of citizenship due to the strict neutrality laws in place at the time in the US.

Regards the contribution of the Soviets, the top ten battles (of WW2) in terms of men, machinery, participants, casualties - or any other way you choose to measure it - all occurred on the Ost-front.

No need to apologize, I was mainly referring to non-British personnel that served during this period of time. I counted a total of 462 from at least 14 countries. Your stats regarding the number of pilots from America is more than likely correct. We did our best to make up for the difference after 7-12-41:thumbup:

easy-lift guy