Cs30/31 £700!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[john k]

BUT..you should have in date industry best practice training, with certification as proof, to satisfy insurance companies and realistically your employer too.

 

Honestly? How many insurance companies or employers really require this?

 

What's your definition of "in date" anyway?

[Johny Walker]

my dad worked in the trees industry for over 60yrs wi just s driving liesencs

[born2trot]

Spraying , Planting , Grass cutting , Digger driving , Litter picking , Hedge cutting , All done by big arb/landscape companies.

 

Get talking to the tree boys , Show your enthusiasm,

 

Door opens.... Your in.

[Gray]

guy i know's on cs38/39 this week for about £190 80% off due to funding from somewhere the only thing i could say to find out is google it ,or i know if you phone base training/buxtons in staffordshire they could tell you

[Dan Curtis]

Honestly? How many insurance companies or employers really require this?

 

What's your definition of "in date" anyway?

 

All the employers i've ever known have, and their insurance companies.

 

Most arb based tickets will also come with a training certificate ie.lantra etc. On these certificates there is usually an expiry date for the training/refresher due date. The qualification is for life, but you should keep up with industry best practice training. Usually between three and five years depending on what ticket.

 

Put it this way, you have an accident with a chainsaw, you've got cs30 &31, but took the assessment nine years ago and haven't done a refresher (five years) you might have a hard time with your insurance company. And if it's comes to it hse and a court of law.

[skyhuck]

Put it this way, you have an accident with a chainsaw, you've got cs30 &31, but took the assessment nine years ago and haven't done a refresher (five years) you might have a hard time with your insurance company. And if it's comes to it hse and a court of law.

 

We hear this on here time after time, PLEASE give one example of this having happened.

 

What sort of accident are you taking about??

[Dan Curtis]

Notice I put might, not will. isn't training meant to give you the ability to mitigate responsibility in these situations?

 

I'm talking about serious accidents. Fatalities and/or serious property damage. I have been told of prosecutions arising and being enforced due to lack of appropriate training, but never been involved or seen proper documentation such things.

 

Do you not feel the need for refresher training then?

[gensetsteve]

Some of these courses are really good for school leavers as they start from the bottom and work up. The government should make them free to the under 20's. But when they charge hundreds of pounds they are a revenue collector. Remember when you were at school and teacher gave the geek a gold star and he walked about proud as punch showing his mummy. Well those kids grew up and revel in pointless legislation ie burning licence, waste carriers licence, cscs, operators licence for small trailers etc etc. Its a shame somthing as worthwhile as basic chainsaw use needs to be so expensive. 5 people on a 2 day course at £200 is £1000 2 a week and they could go to the golf course friday.

[skyhuck]

Notice I put might, not will. isn't training meant to give you the ability to mitigate responsibility in these situations?

 

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Personally I think experience it what gives you the ability to prevent and avoid these situations.

 

It makes me very angry that some in our industry are cashing in on this scare mongering and that people see a bit of paper that shifts blame as whats needed.

[Dan Curtis]

Personally I think experience it what gives you the ability to prevent and avoid these situations.

 

It makes me very angry that some in our industry are cashing in on this scare mongering and that people see a bit of paper that shifts blame as whats needed.

 

I agree about experience being king,a ticket will only get you so far. I also think a lot of tickets -cscs, towing, etc are just a cash cow for some lucky souls.

 

The point I was trying to make is just from the legal standpoint and "proper"way to do things side of it all. Didn't mean to step on toes.....honest:blushing:

 

Sorry for the derail too