Female's on the tools?

[White Noise]

I would say I used to climb faster but I get the job done quicker now because of experience. Does that make me a girl?

 

Yeah a big girl

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

to summarise

 

girls in arb GOOD!

[Ginja]

So your telling me your fella was Neil ( Bucky ) . If so I knew him and worked with him also .

 

Aye you used to partners with K thelwell ? . I was working out at willaston today ( Lime take down )

 

Indeed, Bucko was my fella, the business will always be in his name. Still associated with thelly, he's my best pal.

 

Willaston? Get off my Patch! There seems to be more work in willaston than anywhere! Plenty to go round I was in stapeley today, Copper Beech reduction x 3, good day

[White Noise]

Indeed, Bucko was my fella, the business will always be in his name. Still associated with thelly, he's my best pal.

 

Willaston? Get off my Patch! There seems to be more work in willaston than anywhere! Plenty to go round I was in stapeley today, Copper Beech reduction x 3, good day

 

Brilliant I,ll keep a look out for ya . I,m in winterely the morn . Old thelly balls of steel . Take care .

[Sam Thompson]

It wasn't you, my brother just set me right!

 

Nantwich matey, I think we occasionally wave in passing. We're Buckland Tree Care

 

Did you drive past Reaseheath this morning?

[Taupotreeman]

Im afraid Janey is right to a degree, performance can not be maintained past 40 IMO.

 

It is simple realities, look at any sport, Boxing, running, football. do you see 40 plus playing pro football, or boxing? very very rarely and they soon wise up or get subbed!

 

course you can climb, but commercial work like sport requires a level of performance, and besides, anyone whos reached that kind of age is more use using thier experience to look after other aspects and the team than climbing.

 

Sorry guys, didn't mean to send this thread off on a tangent and I sure as heck didn't want to get this old argument up and running again. It was more in jest. I'm of the belief you carry on climbing until you don't want to anymore. If you can't cut it in the commercial world you can always do a bit here and bit there to get your thrills, even if you're 60. Anyway, whose the oldest person to climb everest and how old were they? You stop when the body, mind or both give up.

[Big J]

I was thinking about this thread again whilst at work yesterday....

 

Now whilst I don't think that there is any reasonable reason for women to be disadvantaged in arboriculture, I do wonder if the same is true of forestry. I'm a big and quite strong chap, and a day in the woods leaves me knackered and aching without fail. It's the wrestling of hung trees, dragging brash, dragging and stacking logs and the sheer amount of time on the saw that does it I think. The same would of course apply if comparing to a weak and skinny chap. My point is that women start off with a base level of strength so much lower than guys, it's difficult to make up the difference.

 

For example, a good friend of mine is (soon to be) married to a former Britain's strongest woman and competitive power lifter. She is at the top of her game in the UK and whilst she out squats me (apparently of all the muscle groups, there is the least disparity in leg strength between the genders), I can deadlift and bench about the same despite not having trained for a good year (and being decidedly wiry myself!). How can you get around that biomechanical disadvantage as a woman in a manual job?

[Ginja]

Did you drive past Reaseheath this morning?

 

yes, do most mornings.

[janey]

I was thinking about this thread again whilst at work yesterday....

 

Now whilst I don't think that there is any reasonable reason for women to be disadvantaged in arboriculture, I do wonder if the same is true of forestry....

 

I'll probably burn in feminist hell for saying, that in general, I do tend to agree with you on this.

 

For work that is so incredibly physically demanding as forestry, the average woman will be at a distinct disadvantage. No amount of equal rights can change the fact that women have a lower muscle ratio than men (and I have to stress that I'm talking generally and there are always exceptions). However, as you also said, a large proportion of men wouldn't be able to cope with this work either. Even though modern mechanisation goes someway to redress this, I think women will always be at a disadvantage in forestry.

 

Which is why we'll use our superior intelligence and choose better payed and slightly less strenuous work

[Mark Bolam]

My opinion?

 

An average girl wouldn't cope as well as an average man, same as an average 45 year old wouldn't cope as well as an average 19 year old.

 

When was the last time you met anyone average being a successful arb?