Its all kicking off at dale farm!!

[Mark James]

I have brought up today that I feel some people get away with saying more than others.

 

Don't feel that's complaining merely making a point.

 

Never said once that the forums not run well nor that you have easy job running it.

 

I will remember in the future to keep those kind of comments to myself, in fear of ruffling the moderators feathers.

 

 

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[tree_beard]

The cynic in me wonders how much the press stirred up the confrontation. The dale mob has had several days in court and appeals and must be fully aware that they aren't going to win against the police numbers...just going to get some more court time for resistance and violence...

The only way they could have held out would have been back-up from their whole traveller community nationwide.

 

for the last couple of months there has probably been more human rites activists, anarchists and other less than mainstream political types from across europe on site than 'travellers'... for many people it is far more than a planning issue.

 

my younger (angrier and more politically minded) brother travelled from berlin to dale farm last month to show his support. there were alot of people like him there (educated, tight trousers and trendy hair) along with more hardcore anti-establishment types. but more making cups of tea for elderly and infirm settled travellers than chaining themselves to things...

 

its an interesting case, but one that will likely be ended with little drama, and forgotten before long

[smithers1603]

We are all human beings, Axe murderers, psycopaths, mad dictators, bankers, child molestors, the full spectrum are all human.

However the individuals or groups behavouir dictates how they are regarded by the greater community.

I would very reasonably believe that the so called "travellers" appear to regard themselves as above the law, whilst preying on mostly decent, mostly law abiding, mostly tax paying citizens, preferably the older & more vunerable the better, and yes I could name two older people in the local Community so preyed apon.

And yes, I am aware there are dodgy locals as well.

I do appreciate that there will be some decent ones among them , but unfortunately the general "traveller" image is well deserved, and yes, they are not wanted in their "homeland" either, one wonders why?

PS

I witnessed 3 of them (=travellers) abuse a waitress in a motorway burger place in the middle of the afternoon, then by climbing over tables to be disruptive as possible, left without paying.

I have never witnessed such behaviour from any other group.

I,ve got to say I fully agree.

[s.varty]

for the last couple of months there has probably been more human rites activists, anarchists and other less than mainstream political types from across europe on site than 'travellers'... for many people it is far more than a planning issue.

 

my younger (angrier and more politically minded) brother travelled from berlin to dale farm last month to show his support. there were alot of people like him there (educated, tight trousers and trendy hair) along with more hardcore anti-establishment types. but more making cups of tea for elderly and infirm settled travellers than chaining themselves to things...

 

its an interesting case, but one that will likely be ended with little drama, and forgotten before long

 

HEAR,HEAR!!! Not once have i heard the opinions of the local people who live (& pay their taxes) near this site,or maybe for some reason they darnt voice their opinion.

[Len Brennan]

I consider myself quite a tolerant person but it seems to me that many of the 'travelling communtiy' do seem to think they are above the law. Many pay no income tax or national insurance, vehicles (often run on red diesel) are seldom taxed, mot'ed or insured and planning laws, as in this case are ignored. If caught they simply give a false name and fail to turn up in court.

There was a time many years ago when 'gypsies' as we called them then, really did have an alternative lifestyle, they travelled around the country in horse drawn caravans getting up to a bit of mischief but generally keeping themselves to themselves and not expecting anything from the rest of the populus. But today's 'travellers' are quite happy to use our health service and our schools without putting anything back into society. And how can you call yourself a 'traveller' if you've lived in the same place for 10 years?

If you want to be part of our society then play by our rules, end of.

[PeteB]

Personally, I do not care if they are travelers, merchant bankers, politicians, rave dancers, suburban middle class or anything else. They have broken the law for many years and judgment has been given in favour of the local authority and that judgement is that that half of the site is returned to green belt - irrespective of who owns it or how much they paid for it or indeed their ethnicity.

 

Ethnicity is not the subject matter - broken planning law is.

 

The other "supporters" of the residents do not recognise this either and are therefore breaking the law and should be punished for their behaviour.

 

But I do agree that the press have not helped by highlighting the residents incorrect argument of ethnicity.

[easy-lift guy]

Your right Len, however will the people of England be willing to follow up and force assimlation upon these type folks or more of the same so as to not upset anyone?

Selected enforcement of the law provides at best selected results and a lot more hand ringing.

easy-lift guy.

[spudulike]

Air Strike - thats the answer:lol:

[elfinwood saws]

We are all human beings, Axe murderers, psycopaths, mad dictators, bankers, child molestors, the full spectrum are all human.

However the individuals or groups behavouir dictates how they are regarded by the greater community.

I would very reasonably believe that the so called "travellers" appear to regard themselves as above the law, whilst preying on mostly decent, mostly law abiding, mostly tax paying citizens, preferably the older & more vunerable the better, and yes I could name two older people in the local Community so preyed apon.

And yes, I am aware there are dodgy locals as well.

I do appreciate that there will be some decent ones among them , but unfortunately the general "traveller" image is well deserved, and yes, they are not wanted in their "homeland" either, one wonders why?

PS

I witnessed 3 of them (=travellers) abuse a waitress in a motorway burger place in the middle of the afternoon, then by climbing over tables to be disruptive as possible, left without paying.

I have never witnessed such behaviour from any other group.

 

Well said,they chose to live outside of the laws of the land and now are facing the consequences.

[elfinwood saws]

Ethnicity, my wife is a Viking so can we live in the ways of the Vikings, No we have progressed and use toilets!