Naughty Naughty!!

[Sam Thompson]

I've just been helping out looking after 15,000 pheasant poults so i know full well about animal welfare and the correct and incorrect practices. Granted it seems pointless looking after 15,000 as most of them (approx 60%) will be shot. The other 40% or so will be left to go wild for next season.

 

Now come on lad. According to NGO (or the GWCT, I can't remember)

 

40% Foxes and other predators (Depending how good your control is)

25% Wild

35% Guns (Depending how good your keeper is)

[David Goss]

I had a similar situation last week in a conifer hedge, I knew it was likely to find nesting birds so i had a quick look before i started. Needless to say about 5 cuts in i cut a branch with a nest in it with 2 chicks which i think are starlings. I didnt see the nest at all even after having a look with the really thick foliage. I put the nest back as best i could and decided to stop the job, just as i did that i turned to start climbing down again and there is a pigeon chick staring at me from its nest in the next branch!

So here is a question... I checked the hedge before i started and only found the nests when i had cleared some branches so should i be prosecuted for it? even after checking?

Mistakes happen and are easily done when working in those situations where it is difficult to see through the thick stuff. Do we have any leg to stand on if some crazy fanatic kicks up stink because you cut a branch with a nest you didnt see?

As it happens i felt real bad for the chicks and i hope they are ok, I guess the worry i had for them is worse than any fine i could get for it seeing as i love nature and everything in it.

[tomtrees]

And how did you work that one out then?

 

It is proverbial or expression I think came from Charles Dickens and the ass being referred to is the Donkey haveing a reputation for obstinance and stupidity. It is the stupidly rigid application of the law that this phrase calls into question

[David Goss]

that was like going to confession! i feel much better

maybe i should become a catholic!

[Adam Bourne]

It is proverbial or expression I think came from Charles Dickens and the ass being referred to is the Donkey haveing a reputation for obstinance and stupidity. It is the stupidly rigid application of the law that this phrase calls into question

 

 

nice answer thought i might of had some abuse then.

 

Hi David hope things are well with you mate, I do see everyone's point on this thread mate and i do realise accidents do happen, but 99.9% shouldn't happen, my opinion was aimed towards mindless ignorant people who would take the risk just to earn a dollar.

[18 stoner]

So here is a question... I checked the hedge before i started and only found the nests when i had cleared some branches so should i be prosecuted for it? even after checking?

 

If you disturbed them, yes. It seems like you stopped before disturbing them though.

 

The law states its illegal to disturb a nesting bird. End of.

 

If you didnt carry out an adequate survey, you should have.

[Matthew Arnold]

If you disturbed them, yes. It seems like you stopped before disturbing them though.

 

The law states its illegal to disturb a nesting bird. End of.

 

If you didnt carry out an adequate survey, you should have.

 

But how can you carry out an adequate bird nest assesment on a conifer hedge that hasnt been cut for 3 months. Without setting up the day before with a notebook and an accurate watch counting the amount of times a species of bird goes into a specific spot.

Edited May 20, 2011 by Matthew Arnold

[tomtrees]

Yes but the law is an ass LOL

[18 stoner]

But how can you carry out an adequate bird nest assesment on a confier hedge that hasnt been cut for 3 months. Without setting up the day before with a notebook and an accurate watch counting the amount of times a species of bird goes into a specific spot.

 

Matt, I think you just answered your own question mate!

[Stephen Blair]

But how can you carry out an adequate bird nest assesment on a confier hedge that hasnt been cut for 3 months. Without setting up the day before with a notebook and an accurate watch counting the amount of times a species of bird goes into a specific spot.

 

Infrared camera??