Simon Mayo today.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

I think you are lucky to go through your career without an incident......purely because however competent, careful, experienced you are, you can be 'unlucky' and through no fault of your own have a mishap..... a slip, a snapout.....just sheer bad luck......and it happens.

 

Every stupid "unlucky" thing that has happened to me was 90% fatigue and 10% pushing the limits, both going hand in hand in each and every occurence.

 

treework is one area to where going home when your tired is the right thing to do, or having a relief climber.

[AA Teccie (Paul)]

So what is the difference between a tree surgeon and a arborist?

 

I heard it whilst driving home on the M5...'oh joy!'

 

Simplistically (that's me to a tee!) my interpretation is UK v N. America.

 

Cheers..

Paul

[Arctostaphylos uva-ursi]

Arrrrhhhh. Can't believe I just listened to Simon Mayo. Short wasn't it? But anything that raises the profile of our industry has to be a good thing. No?

I want to see the stump grinder that fits in a toolbox! It must either be a very small stump grinder or a very large tool box.

I dislike the term arborist and beleive his interpretation to be wrong. I agree with Paul its the North American term for a tree surgeon. Why cant we say Arboriculturalist over here? Do we have to dumb everything down?

 

Ho hum

[AA Teccie (Paul)]

I heard it whilst driving home on the M5...'oh joy!'

 

Simplistically (that's me to a tee!) my interpretation is UK v N. America.

 

Cheers..

Paul

 

Hmmm, thinking this one through a little more (I know too much time...!) and having just had a, completely coincidental, conversation with a collegaue in part covering the same topic, maybe my 'simpleism' is too much so.

 

Having researched a little on line (free dictionary & wiki) it would seem maybe there is a closer association between the terms 'Arborist' & 'Arboriculturist' as UK n N.America (or vica versa respectively), with tree surgeon being a predominant, or exclusive, term to the UK defined as "a specialist in treating damaged trees".

 

That said many UK tree surgeons would also qualify as 'arborists' so maybe we're back to square one...ho hum!

 

Cheers..

Paul

[armybloke]

Funny ol' thing, we just had a conversation in the office about Mr Mayo and his 'tree chat'. If nothing else it has raised the profile of the industry and also dispelled any myth in what we (collectively) do with trees and how we look after them. The nice man from Walsall did his best to simplify the difference between arboriculturalists and tree surgeons but in essense I don't think he nailed it. I liken the arboriculturalists to consultants in the medical world; skilled at diagnosing the problem and recommending the necessary work to put right what is wrong and tree surgeons as physicians or medical practitioner; skilled in repair, remediation and removal. A miscinception is that 'we' all only want to chop them all down! Let's hear it for the Arboriculturalists and Tree Surgeons!!!

[Arctostaphylos uva-ursi]

I'll second that!

Note: Arboriculturalist does not appear in the OED so lets do our best to get it in!

[Craig Johnson]

I thought we were now called 'Tree care professionals'

[Johny Walker]

I thought we were now called 'Tree care professionals'

 

tcp for short

[bythamboy]

So a poll for someone (computer sort )to organise ; how many of you out there are tree surgeons and how many are arborists (arboriculturists ) or what do you write on the side of your works wagon . I think that not all customers would know what 'arborist' means and "tree surgeon " sounds reasonably professional but I'd like to call myself an arborist as it sounds grandious and I do have NC Arb.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

So a poll for someone (computer sort )to organise ; how many of you out there are tree surgeons and how many are arborists (arboriculturists ) or what do you write on the side of your works wagon . I think that not all customers would know what 'arborist' means and "tree surgeon " sounds reasonably professional but I'd like to call myself an arborist as it sounds grandious and I do have NC Arb.

 

I have a special flip round sign, arboriculturist for bishops avenue and flips down to loppers and toppers for the local estate runs!