With this ring...

[Tom D]

This is something I was playing around with on today's job, it was my first go with the pinto and inspired by drew b's setup I tried this. Unlike Drew's version my ring replaces the bottom half of the hitch as both legs and the rope pass through the eye.

After only one climb I like the hitch, not sure if the pinto is better than the HC though, I need to try the pinto with a regular hitch and try the ring hitch on the HC.

 

The tails on the fishermans are long because I was experimenting with different lengths.

 

 

 

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[BenR]

Nice. Kind of like an XT plus the ring. Does it self tend well?

[RobArb]

might have to try that ring with my hitch now

 

does it "sit back" at all now with that ring in it?

[Tom D]

Sitback is minimal, it was not self tending today but it has only had 2 hours climbing on it and I was messing about with different lengths of leg. It's pretty loose and I think it would self tend given a bit more bedding in. A bigger ring would loosen it up further I reckon.

What the ring does that I like is: as slack is tended, the ring goes from vertical to horizontal, and pushes evenly on the wraps of the hitch. It works well, I will keep using it over the next few weeks and post any other thoughts.

 

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[Mark Bolam]

I had mine set up like this Tom (temporarily using a small shackle instead of a ring), with the rope also going through the ring.

 

Drew reckons a bigger ring would slop around too much.

 

DMM make rings with internal diameters of 26,28,34 and 40mm (same as on the Treemotion), and I wasn't sure which to go for?

 

12mm Tachyon/Imori/Poison Ivy + 2 legs of 8mm AP = 28mm, but they don't necessarily sit in a line if you catch my drift?

[Johny Walker]

does that not coures more friction on the the rope & tail ??? as in heat

[Tom D]

This one is a 28, how did yours go with the shackle?

 

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[Mark Bolam]

Loved it.

 

Very positive bite, which I've struggled with on the VT, and minimal sitback.

 

Drew explained that the ring stops the VT from 'opening' fully, which would explain the great grip, but think this may hamper the self-tending a bit?

 

I'll have a play.

[atree]

Nice tom,

 

Better with spliced eye's then you don't have to tie and un-tie the fisherman's all the time,Once you get the correct hitch length of course

[morten]

Interesting!

 

It doesn't seem like the wheel of the Pinto has any use? The Pinto is used as a LOAD BEARING connecting device, only.

That obviously makes quite a difference compared to the traditional VT/HC setup, right?