V.T.A symptoms "the chatty trees"

[Matthew Arnold]

I forgot to get pics of the base of this Oak which has dryadeus and i think also Australe. The australe is in the large basal cavity. Its big enough to get a decent sized camera in to get shots. There is some pretty extreme fluting and flaring at the base. It has a very healthy crown which is a good sign. No signs of buckling at the base though or structural cracks.

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

I forgot to get pics of the base of this Oak which has dryadeus and i think also Australe. The australe is in the large basal cavity. Its big enough to get a decent sized camera in to get shots. There is some pretty extreme fluting and flaring at the base. It has a very healthy crown which is a good sign. No signs of buckling at the base though or structural cracks.

 

I've learned to take shots of the features, the fungi and the tree as a whole in its context when shooting fungi, over the years it can give a great depth to the story. Thats a lovely internal cavity shot Matty:001_cool:

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Here we have a beech tree from much earlier in the thread, on with twin stem and included union. I had been observing for some years, it was approaching T/r failure ratios 70% hollow and I knew that it was just a question time.

 

 

 

 

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

This tree originally shot features in the new veteran and ancient tree management guidance book, as I found out at the weekend, it has since failed in a dramatic fashion!

 

 

[sloth]

Oak, pedunculate. Pedestal deformation= low buckling round entire circumference. Cause, selective delignification/cavitation, via mainly G. australe with I. dryadeus also present.

 

Oaks at least our native white Oaks, robur/petrea are highly resistant to This Ganoderma, living for extended periods if not indefinitely with it albeit in some very disrupted/adapted forms.

 

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Interesting tree

How would you expect the distribution of the two fungis territories to look? With the Ga being quite 'potent' and the Id being quite 'weak', do you think they would remain in separate volumes of wood? Or is it possible the Ga could end up with the tree to itself?

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Interesting tree

How would you expect the distribution of the two fungis territories to look? With the Ga being quite 'potent' and the Id being quite 'weak', do you think they would remain in separate volumes of wood? Or is it possible the Ga could end up with the tree to itself?

 

Where I have found Ganoderma resinaceum in close association with another white rotter I have found very thick and durable psuedosclerotial plating of a brown colouration. I suspect they will do similar, though maybe the brown plate will be black, maybe the brown plating is Inonotus as apposed to the Gano, but I think it is the ganos producing the plate.

 

plates are created by fungi for two reasons, to conserve conditions, like like Kretz conserving moisture (it is a soft rotter after all, they evolved from water) or like the Armillaria sp, using a psuedosclerotial coating over their mycelium to move about the woodland in a protective sheath

[daltontrees]

Interesting. Are you saying that the black material of pseudosclerotial plating and the black sheath of 'bootlaces are the same material? And can you recommend any particular text that covers the matter and aids identification of fungal species based on plating colour, shape etc? Worryingly often decay can be found in cavities with no fruiting bodies, no definitive colour or even type of decay but with plates present. If these could help with an ID of the fungi present it would be good to know.

[daltontrees]

Super pictures. Please please tell how you managed to get the focus and illumination so perfect inside the cavity?

[Al Cormack]

Saw this Pine the other day. It is around 70 feet high and leans at about 20 degrees. Looks like some buckling going on at the base?

 

 

 

[MATTMOSS]

Buckling? I would say the tree is putting more wood on to counter torsional twisting forces and/or possible internal decay at the bulging part.

Just my guess- interested to see what others say?

M