Nice day for treework!

[steve the tree]

Nice to see ground workers with some savvy,,good vid mate thanks ,

[David Humphries]

perhaps this should get its own thread sometime.

 

Very Good point Steve.

Although I personally find Reg's technique to be acceptable and very ergonomic being used by somebody who understands fully the capabilities of said equipment & technique,

It would definately be prudent to offer the inexperienced the pros and more importantly the CONS of Rigging timber in this particular way.

 

Obviously not everybody has the opportunity to get on to a Cs41, which is a unit I believe all climbers should attain and renew.

[skyhuck]

Nice Reg!

 

A joy to watch.

[andythesquirel]

I have to agree with MONKEYD. I found the vid very interesting, but as a part timer with no experience of tree rigging, i would definitely like to see more vids of this type.

I appreciate that this is everyday to some of you, but it is of vast help to people aspiring to be fully qualified climbers.

Lets have a thread on it Steve. A vid explains better than just words for the inexperienced!

[Mac McLennan]

Great stuff Reg.......Thanks for taking the time to put them together and post them.

[Nick Waring]

NIce vide, enjoyed watching it.

[Dean Lofthouse]

Love watching your vids Reg.

 

The loading on the biner will be minimal, all it is is a timber hitch finished off with the biner, the first knot takes all the strain not the biner.

 

I use a hitch where the steel biner take all the strain and it hasn't failed. I may start using regs timber hitch on bigger stuff.

[MattyF]

I was getting worried you might of left the forum reg.... then was happily suprised to find another quality video this morning,i forgot that blur sounded so good!

[Andy Collins]

I can only re-iterate others comments before me, excellent quality work, brilliant communication between the whole team, totally professional approach to the whole job. Thanks once again for sharing with us Reg, well worth the time spent compiling it.

[RC0]

Thanks guys, I was actually in 2 minds as whether or not to post the video because it just seemed a little dull to watch….but perhaps that’s because I had to climb it and sit through all the editing yesterday. Hopefully I’ll get time to film some better stuff throughout the summer.

 

Regarding the techniques' in the video: Obviously there are pros and cons, with every situation being slightly different. However, IMO, a knot will always be safer than a Krab, preferably a half hitch or more finished with a running bowline, you can’t go far wrong. On the other hand, a Krab is very fast and convenient to use i.e. in many cases you can realistically throw a Krab through a fork from up to 8 feet away and catch it on its pendulum, then set the choke and you’re ready to go. Over the course of a day can be a real time and labor saver where there’s lots to do, especially if you’re wearing gloves. I’ve never had a steel Krab fail, although I limit their use to static and relatively light dynamic loads.

 

The most serious potential hazard appears to come from the risk of the gate opening, especially so with twist locks. This can happen if there is movement from the Krab as it initially takes up the load i.e. the gate can rub on the branch and work its way open in the blink of an eye. For this reason there can be no slack allowed from the half hitch down to the Krab and both should be aligned with one another. The ISC Krab in the video is proportionately too big for anything less than 12 in diameter (its length + straight profile doesn’t accommodate the bend radius of such proportionately narrow sections), however, consider the friction created by the rope-routing, and the massive tensile strength of this particular Krab, then its not really an issue. The bend radius (or lack of) of the knot where it’s attached to the Krab must also be considered which is why it’s always worth doubling up (see picture of bowline).

 

For total uncomplicated peace of mind, stick to knots, that’s my advise. But try both! MattyF posted photo’s of some ash rigging in the photo section some time ago using knotless rigging with a sling as a choker….also probably more full-proof than a Krab for termination and definitely one to learn.