Were Climbers better 15 years ago?

[skyhuck]

So..... A climber who can see what needs to be done, gets his gear on, gets up the tree and does it as quickly and safely as possible would be a good climber?

A guy who sees the actual climbing as just something that needs to doing to access the wood and not something special that sets them apart from other cogs in the machine.

 

Sounds good to me.

[Frank]

Sounds good to me.

 

Yeah. Me too.

Where do I find this guy?

[Johny Walker]

Yeah. Me too.

Where do I find this guy?

 

frank, you will become this guy over time ,with the right training

[Frank]

frank, you will become this guy over time ,with the right training

 

I think I need to spend a few more years in the woods.

[Johny Walker]

I think I need to spend a few more years in the woods.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

with the bears:001_smile:

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

Productivity.

 

There was a time when this was the only measure of the man, it no longer is (officialy) truth is though, under the table its what everyone is judged on, if you aint fast, your last! simples:001_cool:

 

Wages in this industry are set by effciency and productivity, and rightly so, there is no room for shirkers in this game IME/O

[Johny Walker]

There was a time when this was the only measure of the man, it no longer is (officialy) truth is though, under the table its what everyone is judged on, if you aint fast, your last! simples:001_cool:

 

Wages in this industry are set by effciency and productivity, and rightly so, there is no room for shirkers in this game IME/O

 

its not a game , its bonafied trade ,will folk stop calling it a game ,its not snakes laddders

[treemeup]

There was a time when this was the only measure of the man, it no longer is (officialy) truth is though, under the table its what everyone is judged on, if you aint fast, your last! simples:001_cool:

 

Wages in this industry are set by effciency and productivity, and rightly so, there is no room for shirkers in this game IME/O

 

 

Commercially maybe although quality must still get a look in!

 

private work, so long as the days work gets done then quality is surely the larger measure?

[treemeup]

its not a game , its bonafied trade ,will folk stop calling it a game ,its not snakes laddders

 

life is like a game of chess....

[Tony Croft aka hamadryad]

yes, its about a balance is it not?

 

If you have two guys who do equal quality, but one is twice as efficient as the other because hes old school and doesnt need to fiddle about with bells and whistles, has fine tuned his gear choices via years of experimentation and elimination of the "superfluos" (most modern stuff!)

 

15 years climbing will teach you how to avoid "wasting time and energy, youll learn how to minimise anchorage instalations, re climbs etc route planning and insight will win the day every time.

 

5 years and your a pro, add 10 more your a master, ten more and your a veteran, a veteran climber will move slower but still hit the ground first.

 

As you get older you start using your experience rather than your muscle.