He's going at last!

[felixthelogchopper]

I agree about the benefits. Why can't there be a sliding scale of hours of community service needed in exchange for benefits, with more hours required the longer the benefits are paid. I know there will be arguments about minimum wage but surely, even if we get only one day's work back per week, we could improve a hell of a lot of rundown areas and provide a bit of on the job training at the same time. It might also give people a bit more of a work ethic after being out of work for a long time and encourage local residents to have some more pride in their neighbourhood. I don't believe it would happen overnight but you never know.

[treequip]

Ooooooh

A tory Eatonian at the helm

Hunting with dogs back on the agenda then??

[Saw-sick Steve]

If abanker studies hard at school, uni or whatever, spends silly hours at work, trying to turn his allocation of some else's money into something bigger, pay him his large bonus

and if by recklessly gambling ''someone else's money'' he (or she) brings the economy to its knees, then gambles some more on the basis that the country is going down the pan as a result of his actions, all the while making a small fortune,why the hell do the rest of us taxpayers have to then bail out said banker on the grounds of being ''too big to fail''?

I've nothing at all against enterprise and hard work being fairly rewarded, but I've always believed that the free market worked on a survival of the fittest principle.

These people were trousering stupidly large sums just by playing casino with other peoples cash. To then run whining to the government for a bail out after being brought crashing down by their own greed just beggars belief - or does their ''free market'' differ from everybody else's by having a safety net for when it all goes tits up?

People have short memories, and their righteous anger towards the finance industry was sidetracked by the MP's expenses scandal. While not condoning for a minute the actions of our sleazy parliamentary representatives, the sums involved by comparison were tiny - for what our brave bankers lost, you could clean out every moat and gold plate every duck house in the land!

[Graham]

Ooooooh

A tory Eatonian at the helm

Hunting with dogs back on the agenda then??

 

We can live in hope:thumbup:

[PeteB]

Sawsick Steve, I do agree with you on both the bankers and the bent politicos who think it is their right to fleece the proles. I used it as an example of those who work and strive and those who deem it their right to sponge, moan about their standard of living, thinking that the better off owe them a debt! Those who come to this country because life is easier than in there country of origin and expect me to pay for them, when there will be no money left for my state pension and because I have a house/savings, I have to use that rather that get the state to pay for it.

 

Crime does pay - we are paying for it.

 

It fair sickens me that if I catch a burgler in my house and knock him around - I would get prison whilst he would get compensation and assistance because he is one of the needy! B*ll*cks.

[Frank]

If it's right that you won't be taxed on our first ten grand then I for one will only be earning £9,999.99 this year and next and next haha

[Saw-sick Steve]

Sawsick Steve, I do agree with you on both the bankers and the bent politicos who think it is their right to fleece the proles. I used it as an example of those who work and strive and those who deem it their right to sponge, moan about their standard of living, thinking that the better off owe them a debt! Those who come to this country because life is easier than in there country of origin and expect me to pay for them, when there will be no money left for my state pension and because I have a house/savings, I have to use that rather that get the state to pay for it.

 

Crime does pay - we are paying for it.

 

It fair sickens me that if I catch a burgler in my house and knock him around - I would get prison whilst he would get compensation and assistance because he is one of the needy! B*ll*cks.

I hear ya', there is no incentive for some people to work as all is provided, and I also fear that when it comes to retirement - IF I can afford it and IF I live long enough to reach the ever increasing retirement age - the fact that I own a house and savings will probably count against me.

Regarding immigration, I suppose if I lived in some disease ridden, war torn hell - hole, then I'd do my damnedest to escape to somewhere for a better life. Trouble is, we're a small, overcrowded island with a debt problem and we're already full - harsh, but true. We (the West) should be doing more to improve conditions at source for these people IMHO.

[arbogrunt]

.....on another note, did anyone else notice the Guard at Buckingham Palace...they stayed stood 'at ease' when Brown drove in, but 'presented arms' to Cameron....the British Army's way of say 'thanks for everything Gordon'??!

[felixthelogchopper]

.....on another note, did anyone else notice the Guard at Buckingham Palace...they stayed stood 'at ease' when Brown drove in, but 'presented arms' to Cameron....the British Army's way of say 'thanks for everything Gordon'??!

 

They should have eased springs mate

[Quickthorn]

If it's right that you won't be taxed on our first ten grand then I for one will only be earning £9,999.99 this year and next and next haha

 

That's the bit that interested me. I thought they'd be lifting tax free allowances to £10,000 pretty much straight away. However, if you read the actual text of the agreement, it says:

 

"We agree to announce in the first Budget a substantial increase in the personal allowance from April 2011, with the benefits focused on those with lower and middle incomes.

 

[...]

 

"We also agree to a longer term policy objective of further increasing the personal allowance to £10,000, making further real terms steps each year towards this objective."

 

Which says pretty much nothing, and leaves plenty of room for them to wriggle out of it. After all, it would get to £10,000 eventually anyway.

 

Meet the new boss; same as the old boss.