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On 04/03/2025 at 05:43, Mike Hill said:

 

If I lived in the PNW I would get a Hobbs too.Most of the rigging is negative blocking down of Conifer and your wasting the extra money on a GRCS using it as a bollard.

 

Underappreciated post of the thread. The other half of it could easily be that the UK isn't the PNW. We have shorter, spreadier trees, two inches above sheds. Lifting makes a big difference here. Can you do it with a Hobbs? Yes. Would you rather do it with a sailing winch? I would.


I've lifted bits of trees in the UK with:

Fat groundsmen

Loader

Truck

Petrol capstan

Hobbs

GRCS

 

I've owned all of them at the same time. Besides a small advantage on constant heavy negative rigging, the GRCS does what the Hobbs does, and more, better.

 

Cost isn't a factor. Buying new, if you can save $2500 for a Hobbs, you can save $3500 for a GRCS. There are also cheaper sailing winch devices than the GRCS. Second hand, I paid less for my GRCS than I did for my Hobbs.

 

Addendum: No, I obviously haven't owned a fat man as a chattel. No, I don't want to read your leaflet about bullying.

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And in real terms, if success and failure in negative rigging is coming down to a few inches of pre-tension or belly reel-in that a Hobbs might give over a dumb bollard, you're too close to the edge. Do it a different way.

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1 hour ago, AHPP said:

And in real terms, if success and failure in negative rigging is coming down to a few inches of pre-tension or belly reel-in that a Hobbs might give over a dumb bollard, you're too close to the edge. Do it a different way.

Thanks Alex I wonders where I’ve been going wrong all these years , now it’s obvious I’ll bow down to the GRCS and your skills 👍

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Anyway. You know what's better than all of this tut? A crane. And you know what's better than a crane? Standing on the floor watching a grapplesaw do the first 70% of the job. That's tomorrow. I'll be cross if I break a sweat doing anything heavier than shutting my wallet.

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