Notch Rope Runner Vertec

[peds]

1 minute ago, Rich Rule said:

Running a VT makes the rope twisting into as it goes through the braids.  You can alleviate it a bit by doing the braids over-under, under- over but there will still be some twist.

 

I stick a swivel in my bridge thinking it would help the last bit of twist but it made it 10 times worse so I took it off and sold it.

 

Ah right, yeah I think I see how that would cause a problem... instead of the braid squeezing the twist out as it happens, so it were, having a swivel would kind of carry it along and drop it somewhere else that can't deal with it... if that makes sense.

[Joe Newton]

Rich, i run a camp gyro swivel on my bridge. Love it. Gives options for 2 rope work positioning when needed and make I don't get systems twisted. 

[gand]

On 07/12/2024 at 09:11, Rich Rule said:

Is the swivel useful?

 

Do you like the swivel?

 

Or did you just use it because you could?

 

Could you post a picture of it?

I'll be honest. I've not had a good go on it to give it good reveiw. It was Mike Cuerwen who said to try the swivel. He's been using his everyday since he got his and experienced the lock up. I haven't found swivels to be a problem on srt devices tbh. I'll try and get a picture if I remember 

[Dan Maynard]

I got a camp gyro swivel too, suddenly makes 2 rope a lot more workable. I don't like the extra bits flopping about when advancing branches up the tree, so generally biner the RR on to bridge ring, then once I've set TIP I put ropes on to the swivel to work back down.

 

I don't want to say it too loud but I quite like having 2 ropes sometimes, can just wander about chopping without lanyard in and out. If it's not helping I just drop the second one anyway.

 

One of my ropes is VT on hitchclimber and I haven't really noticed that twisting. I wonder if the DMM swivel has bearings, the gyro is just stainless ball on the end of each arm so little bit of friction maybe enough to stop it spinning unwanted?

[AHPP]

What the Gyro does looks great. How it does it looks like it's going to split and paralyse you.

[Dan Maynard]

I know what you mean, but you stop looking at it after a while just like all the other bits that will kill you if they fail.

 

It helps that it's steel, feels much more solid in the hand than the other aluminium gear.

[AHPP]

4 hours ago, Dan Maynard said:

I know what you mean, but you stop looking at it after a while just like all the other bits that will kill you if they fail.

 

It helps that it's steel, feels much more solid in the hand than the other aluminium gear.

Steel does help now you mention it. Will approach one with a more open mind next time I’m at a shop. It might help probably the worst aspect of my climbing, which is my actual climbing. I’m slow and tangly. I only get anything done because I can rig well. 

 

Now the Petzl EJECT. There’s something that no amount of convincing will make me trust. What’s the death toll we know about so far?

[peds]

If you like the Petzl Eject, you'll love the Beal Escaper...

 

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[AHPP]

2 hours ago, peds said:

If you like the Petzl Eject, you'll love the Beal Escaper...

 

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Yeah. Sod that. 
 

 

[Dan Maynard]

I'm with you on the petzl eject, no amount of convincing will get me over the name.