career path query

[Ducato64]

Run a small gardening firm in the UK but want to expand into treework as i enjoy it the most. Didnt know about tickets required so jumped in and spent 1000's on gear and a used chipper but i put the horse before the cart. Booked on the cs30/cs31 early december. They advised i would need cs38 and cs39 as well. Not an issue. My question is, will this be enough for me to legally work in the trees or is there a better avenue i should follow? 

[Mick Dempsey]

I don’t think you need any tickets to legally do treework.

 

[Steven P]

As Mick, no law about what you need to work on a tree - homeowners can chop their trees down if they want - the issues will be with the insurers to show that you are competent - and only when you are making a claim and want them to pay out (they'll still take your money). However if it is going to be a large part of your work the more training you can get the better.

[Mark Bolam]

Career path -

 

Dragger/Labourer

Groundie

2nd Climber

Climber

2nd Climber

Groundie

Leave industry

 

[Dan Maynard]

If you're working on other people's trees then the health and safety at work act applies, from which follow the work at height regulations, from which follows that you need to be competent, and the tickets are one way to show that. There's more, but it's all covered in the CS38/39 training.

 

It's still worth working in other tree firms rather than just getting tickets and starting out on your own, there's a lot to learn about working efficiently and safely that isn't in the tickets.

[Mr. Squirrel]

7 hours ago, Dan Maynard said:

If you're working on other people's trees then the health and safety at work act applies, from which follow the work at height regulations, from which follows that you need to be competent, and the tickets are one way to show that. There's more, but it's all covered in the CS38/39 training.

 

It's still worth working in other tree firms rather than just getting tickets and starting out on your own, there's a lot to learn about working efficiently and safely that isn't in the tickets.

Very true. There’s also the benefit that if you get some experience with a decent company first you’re less likely to do an awful job. If you just get your tickets and start operating as a business you’ll almost certainly join the ranks of the countless crap ‘tree care’ companies in the uk. 

[Ducato64]

So, as i have self taught, i can continue this way?. As for insurance , no i wont have it but i wont take on jobs over property that can be damaged. As for myself, i'll trust the gear.

[GarethM]

11 minutes ago, Ducato64 said:

So, as i have self taught, i can continue this way?. As for insurance, no i wont have it but i wont take on jobs over property that can be damaged. As for myself, i'll trust the gear.

Or just do the first 30/31, it's not particularly expensive and probably an advantage.

[Mick Dempsey]

7 hours ago, Ducato64 said:

So, as i have self taught, i can continue this way?. As for insurance , no i wont have it but i wont take on jobs over property that can be damaged. As for myself, i'll trust the gear.

Sure, there’s nothing stopping you.

[Dan Maynard]

No.

 

It's true that nobody is likely to come and stop you, but really it's unwise to carry on. Get some training. Learn about trees.