Anyone still like Labour?

[GarethM]

2 minutes ago, Steven P said:

However rotating machines can and do smooth over the chopping effect of DC-AC conversion which was your point wasn't it?

 

Hinkley will be operational - a new Nuclear power station which is your preferred option isn't it over windfarms

So you want me to close all these power stations and build big arse rotating flywheels, you know like that one at Chester.

 

A quick Google say 7billion a year!.

[sime42]

6 hours ago, Mark J said:

Dan Chod:

"If you voted for Reform and can't answer these questions, you've been duped into protest voting for a worse party than either of the main parties. (Dog shit both of them)

Something about due diligence when making decisions. If you were hiring staff to a position of responsibility you'd absolutely want to know everything about that person and if they're suitable for the job... Why wouldn't you hold your politicians to the same standard?

1. Brexit Promises vs. Reality

a) If Brexit wasn’t "done properly," what does "proper" even mean? What policies would you implement, and how exactly would they improve growth, trade, and living standards?

b) If Brexit was meant to boost the economy, why is the UK now lagging behind the very EU countries we were promised we'd outperform?

c) Nigel Farage promised £350 million a week for the NHS, fewer migrants, and greater prosperity. Can you point to a single one of those promises that's actually been delivered?

d) If Brexit was about "sovereignty," why are we now dependent on US trade deals that undermine British farmers, and why did Farage support the disastrous Australia deal?

e) If Farage, Tice, and Murdoch are such patriots, why do they keep their money offshore while backing policies that harm British workers and businesses?

2. Immigration Myths vs. Facts

a) If mass immigration causes stagnant wages and housing shortages, why have these problems worsened since the UK regained full control of its borders?

b) If immigration supposedly strains public services, why can't the NHS function without immigrant staff?

c) If immigration depresses wages, why have real wages stagnated for over a decade, even after immigration fell post-Brexit?

d) State pensions are funded by current workers, not individual savings. The pensioner population will grow by 14% by 2032, while the working-age population will rise by just 9%, according to the ONS. Since net migration drives most working-age growth, how do you sustain the tax base while calling for lower immigration?

e) The NHS relies heavily on taxes from the working-age population. The 85+ population is set to nearly double by 2047, according to the ONS. How do you plan to fund and staff the NHS while cutting immigration, given that migrants form a significant part of both the workforce and tax base?

f) If we want to build 1.5m homes, homes that are desperately needed, it's estimated we'll require 300,000 more builders and construction workers. Where will we get them fully trained and ready to start immediately?

3. Reform's Empty Promises

a) Reform UK claims to stand up for the "left behind." Can you name a single policy that would actually lift a struggling community out of poverty?

b) If Reform cares so much about working people, why do they back tax cuts for the rich while slashing services ordinary families rely on?

c) Independent analysis has exposed a £60–89 billion black hole in Reform's election manifesto. Given Farage has already promised £150 billion in public service cuts, how exactly do they plan to plug the gap? Or is this just more fantasy economics with real-world consequences?

d) If both the Tories and Labour are so terrible, why has Farage failed to win a parliamentary seat until now, despite standing seven times before?

4. Net Zero and Energy Realities

a) How does scrapping net zero lower bills, create jobs, or improve energy security when renewables are now cheaper than fossil fuels – and cheap electricity could turbo-charge British steel production and manufacturing?

b) The green economy already supports 430,000 UK jobs, projected to hit 1.2 million by 2050. Scrap net zero, and where do those jobs go – or are they just “woke” collateral damage?

c) If the Industrial Revolution was inevitable and, despite initial disruption, created far more jobs and prosperity than it destroyed, why oppose the net zero transition – especially when it promises abundant, cheap electricity to cut production costs, revive steelmaking, and make Britain a manufacturing powerhouse again?

d) Fusion energy might one day be a game-changer, but it's decades away from delivering power at scale. And even if the technology matures, Tritium – its essential fuel – remains scarce, expensive, and difficult to produce. Is waiting for a far-off miracle really smarter than backing renewables that are already delivering cheap, reliable energy?

e) Do you really believe sticking with expensive fossil fuels will protect jobs or lower household bills? And if climate change is just a "myth," why are insurance premiums soaring, harvests failing, and flood defences being raised year after year?

f) Richard Tice has investments in EV charging infrastructure, which has led to allegations of inconsistency between his business practices and his public political stance on net zero policies. Why do you think this is?

5. Rights, Freedoms, and Dangerous Precedents

a) If we were to leave the ECHR, as Farage wants, how would you overcome the Northern Ireland Agreement having the ECHR baked into it? Or does the peace process not matter?

b) If Farage drags us out of the ECHR, what stops a future government banning Reform rallies, shutting down GB News, or arresting leaders under "extremism" laws? No ECHR means no higher court to challenge state overreach. Are you really that naïve – or just that desperate for revenge?

6. The Bigger Picture

a) What’s your actual solution for improving Britain? Because blaming the EU, immigrants, and net zero isn’t a plan – it’s just lazy finger-pointing.

b) Reform loves to bang on about "British values." Since when did shirking responsibility, scapegoating minorities, and offering snake-oil economics count as patriotism?

c) If Reform represents "common sense," why do their policies collapse under even basic scrutiny – or is blind rage the only thing holding the movement together?

d) Have you actually read Reform’s 2024 manifesto, or does shouting "immigrant" drown out every rational thought? That’s not patriotism – it's national self-harm.

e) do you still believe in EU army would undermine NATO, given Trump's recent actions?

PS – If you can't answer these questions, then either you haven’t bothered to read Farage’s manifesto, or you’ve wilfully ignored it – along with the damage it would unleash. While you parrot his shallow “Stop the Boats” drivel, your critical thinking has been hijacked. And all the while, the real plan – the same playbook Trump is using – marches on: dismantling democratic safeguards and lining the pockets of billionaire backers. This isn’t common sense – it’s calculated manipulation. Wake up. You're not saving the country – you're sleepwalking us into fascism"

 

Too many words. First rule of engagement: know your target audience.

 

[Johnsond]

10 minutes ago, Mark J said:

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Both crazy expensive one is Chinese shite the other has poor range and id like to see what the range is when towing. Isuzu not till 26

[Mark J]

2 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

Both crazy expensive one is Chinese shite the other has poor range and id like to see what the range is when towing. Isuzu not till 26

Best get saving, Dave. 

[Johnsond]

7 minutes ago, Mark J said:

Best get saving, Dave. 

No thanks Mark illl see my time out on diesel. Common sense will hopefully prevail. 

[Johnsond]

3 hours ago, sime42 said:

 

Too many words. First rule of engagement: know your target audience.

 

Too many predictions not facts  42 did you check the source ?? 
I'm surprised the self appointed source auditor in chief didn’t comment on that.  

Edited 18 hours ago by Johnsond

[Mark J]

4 minutes ago, Johnsond said:

No thanks Mark illl see my time out on diesel. Common sense will hopefully prevail. 

It will prevail. 

To be fair, I've only got another 30 - 40 odd years, at best, on this planet. It doesn't really matter how shite I leave it for anyone else. 

Edited 22 hours ago by Mark J

[Steven P]

18 minutes ago, GarethM said:

So you want me to close all these power stations and build big arse rotating flywheels, you know like that one at Chester.

 

A quick Google say 7billion a year!.

 

No but there are apparently 11,000 rotating flywheels distributed about the country when the wind blows that will smooth over the chopping effect of DC-AC conversion from solar farms. 

 

[GarethM]

4 minutes ago, Mark J said:

It will prevail. 

To be fair, I've only got another 30 - 40 odd years, at best, on this planet. It doesn't really matter how shite I leave it for anyone else. 

A couple of recycled dirty diesels is probably better than a few dozen E waste Isuzus

[GarethM]

3 minutes ago, Steven P said:

 

No but there are apparently 11,000 rotating flywheels distributed about the country when the wind blows that will smooth over the chopping effect of DC-AC conversion from solar farms. 

 

Would those 11,000 be wind turbines per chance. What happens when you run you car in the wrong gear for 99% of its life ?.

 

Or say 12-15 nuclear and no wind turbines, hum which would I prefer.

 

Remind me how many reactors France has and how much they export to your German rulers ?.

Edited 22 hours ago by GarethM